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NY - Pledge to carry gun battle across nation
« on: January 03, 2006, 06:00:28 AM »
Pledge to carry gun battle across nation
 
By DAVID SALTONSTALL
 
Once content to rule the city, Mayor Bloomberg yesterday vowed for the first time to go national - with an all-out effort to crack down on illegal gun sales.
With the shooting deaths of two NYPD cops still weighing on the city - and with his confidence as a political player clearly rising - Bloomberg promised in his second term to fight the fight over illegal handguns in every forum that matters.

"We will take our message to Albany, to Washington and to every capital of every state that permits guns to flow freely across its borders," said Bloomberg.

"And to those who distort our laws to aid and abet hardened criminals, know this," he said, punching the air for emphasis. "We will not rest until we secure all of the tools we need to protect New Yorkers from the scourge of illegal guns."

Although Bloomberg has talked before about the need for stricter gun controls, yesterday was the first time he pledged to do battle in individual statehouses throughout the U.S.

The new push underscored the growing sense of urgency in the city surrounding illegal firearms, which helped fuel a 3% increase in shooting victims last year.

But it also reflected a mayor who, after four years of mostly learning the political ropes in New York, is confident enough to take his game to the national level, experts said.

Gun control advocates said that as the Republican mayor of the country's largest city - and one of the GOP's most generous donors - Bloomberg could be uniquely positioned to influence the national gun control debate.

"If he can make an alliance of governors and mayors - particularly Republican governors and mayors - it could greatly help us," said Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), an author of the Brady Bill, which requires background checks for handgun purchases. "We haven't had a major Republican voice speaking out for gun control in a long time."

No matter what, with a Texas Republican in the White House and the National Rifle Association still among the biggest givers in Congress, it will be an uphill fight, Schumer added.

NRA officials could not be reached for comment yesterday, but Bloomberg is already in the group's sights.

When the mayor talked last month about the need to tighten gun laws after the shooting death of NYPD Officer Dillon Stewart - by a gun stolen in Florida - NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam said it was "despicable" for Bloomberg to inject politics into the debate.

Others said Bloomberg's plan to take the fight to states where most of New York's illegal guns originate - with Florida and Georgia being prime culprits - was right on.

"He needs to go to Florida and say, 'You sell thousands of guns that end up on our streets every year, and one of them killed a police officer in New York. What are you going to do about that?'" said Jackie Kuhls, executive director of New Yorkers Against Gun Violence.


Mike's resolutions

Mayor Bloomberg's second inaugural address yesterday included promises to:


Launch a national effort to crack down on illegal guns.

Speed up the rebuilding of lower Manhattan and create a "sustainable residential and commercial community" - a clear reference to his call for housing at Ground Zero.

"Lock in and extend" reforms granting mayoral control over city schools, which the state can revoke after 2008.

Continue to drive down crime and improve public safety, which he called "the foundation of our city's prosperity."

Be "fiscally responsible." City government "can and must live within its means," he said.  

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/story/379449p-322247c.html

*FW Note:

I'm sure that many people disagree with me, but I don't believe that there is any such instrument as an "illegal gun".

The 2nd Amendment affirms that we have "...the right to keep and bear arms...", but not once does it say "...except for...".

Perhaps Mr. Bloomberg is actually concerned about an issue of "illegal possession"...

...but I'm not sure that's possible either...

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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2006, 02:26:10 PM »
I would bet that most of New Yorks prostitutes and street drugs are imported from elsewhere also.  May one suppose that laws are being broken? :roll:

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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2006, 04:37:54 PM »
And why am I not suprised?
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Tolerance in the face of tyranny is no virtue."
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2006, 03:28:40 AM »
But it also reflected a mayor who, after four years of mostly learning the political ropes in New York, is confident enough to take his game to the national level, experts said.

I think it reflects a rather stupid politician who fails to recall that national efforts, including those by NY's attorney general failed as miserably as other municipal efforts at attempting some form of national gun control.

He can say what he wants but his influence is limited to the five borroughs of NYC.  Outside NYC nobody even listens to him.  He will be politely received in both Florida and Georgia because nice, polite folk live there.  But will his concerns be heard - no, I don't think so.  

Will he be able to forward any form of national effort - no, I don't think so.

If eliot the zealot spitzer becomes governor will he be able to push forward any national efforts - no, I don't think so (not when lots of us shoot spitzers in our rifles - lol).

You have to understand that nyc politicians are fulla bs and hot air.  Their comments and statements are meant for local ears only as they have neither authority or influence beyond their immediate locale.  Even if spitzer gets into the governor's seat his influence will be limited.  NY has far too many problems for him to waste his time on law enforcement efforts that should be locally controlled.  All we will have with him in office is more layers of the same tired laws that we live with now.  He is far too gutless to carry out the death penalty and that is about the only thing that will work.  JMHO.  Mikey.