Author Topic: Sabot Slug in smoth-bore winchester 1300 Practical Defender (Read 1289 times)

nasem · « **on:** January 05, 2006, 07:32:05 AM »

Question: Can you shoot sabot slugs in smooth bore shotgun ?

if answer is "no", What about if you put a rifled choke on that smoothbore, would that be ok ?

if answer is still "no"... can you get a rifled barrel for the winchester 1300 practical defender (22" 12ga)

thanks everyone

wink_man · « **Reply #1 on:** January 05, 2006, 11:09:24 AM »

Most boxes of sabot slugs state that they are for fully rifled barrels only, so the answer to question 1 is no.(although some will disagree)
In light of the above statement, the answer to question number 2 is no also, although I know people who shoot sabot slugs in a smoothbore barrel with a rifled choke tube.
In regard to question 3, Cabelas Shooting Catalog 2005 has fully rifled slug barrels for the Winchester 1300, 22 inches long, they are blued only, if that makes a difference to you.
Sincerely,
Garry

nasem · « **Reply #2 on:** January 05, 2006, 11:16:10 AM »

alright Garry, thanks for your response, and it actually makes alot of sence, The only reason why I posted my question was because I also have heard alot of people using rifled-chokes on thier smooth-bores and shooting sabots (but on the packages of most sabot slugs clearly says "only rifles barrels")

So That kind of threw me off

WNY_Whitetailer · « **Reply #3 on:** January 06, 2006, 05:33:45 PM »

Yup...Garry is correct. You would just be throwing money out the window shooting saboted slugs out of your smooth bore...Better off shooting those rifled slugs even if you are using a rifled choke. I had a rifled choke on my smooth bore 870 for years and it shot great with the Remington 2 3/4 & 3"Sluggers.

nasem · « **Reply #4 on:** January 06, 2006, 07:05:06 PM »

well to be honest, I was planning on putting those 2-3/4" core-lokt remingtons sabots in my 12-ga (I heard they make a great "defending" caliber if your going to hunt in an area with possible bears....Im planning a trip to alaska this comming october, and the area I am going in - I heard has some bears - and I have also heard that the bears aren't really dangerous to humans..... they tend to stay away from us as much as they can .... but sometimes you just want to feel safe.

those 2-3/4" core-lokts have amazing performace on dangerous game (Im talkin about the very large game, over 800-900 lbs bears) in a range of about 50-75 yards

I just wanna have a back-up / defending gun "incase" something goes wrong. As far as my hunting rifle goes, Im going to bring my winchester classic stainless 375 h&h.

corbanzo · « **Reply #5 on:** January 09, 2006, 08:14:26 AM »

If you are talking about bears, it doesnt matter. The are close, and the power is going to be delivered, so the mid-long range trajectory doesn't matter, which is affected by the spin. I usa a sawed off with a smooth bore for bear protection... but, I use rifled slugs, because there are only one type of slugs I'd ever use. Rottweil, they are really had lead, and rifled. If you want to use them for deer hunting on the other hand... then soboted slugs out of a smoothbore is pretty worthless.

corbanzo · « **Reply #6 on:** January 09, 2006, 08:17:23 AM »

I missed that last part... if you are going to be carrying a .375HH with you, why not just use it for protection?? Are you planning on carrying both guns??

nasem · « **Reply #7 on:** January 09, 2006, 09:44:46 AM »

Yes, Im planning on taking both

corbanzo · « **Reply #8 on:** January 09, 2006, 07:35:55 PM »

Seems a big interesting to me. With bears, if you need protection, it's when you scare them (which means they scare you too because they are really close). And when you are hunting, you are going to a lot of times take the shot quickly when it's there. So either way, you are going to have to have one one gun strapped down, and the other cocked and ready. I'm not sure what you are hunting for (goat or sheep I'm guessing because of season), but in this case there are two scenarios... when traveling to your hunting grounds strap hunting rifle, carry shotgun for protection, then when you get into higher elevations, strap shotgun, carry rifle. If there is a late moose hunt I don't know about (it ends in mid september here in south central AK), I would recommend just bringing your .375, and using open sights. And once again, at bear protection ranges, rifling dont mean squat. Just how hard the lead is.

nasem · « **Reply #9 on:** January 10, 2006, 11:07:45 AM »

Well, i defenetly agree with your last statment Corbonzo, I do need a 12-ga bullet that has "hard" lead.... which is the reason why I was thinking of using sabot slugs - they tend to hold up better than pure-lead-rifled-slugs.

The sabots I had in mind were the remingtons 12-ga core-lokts, 1900 FPS with 3100 ft-lbs and they have the best reputation for holding up against tough dangerious animals

IntrepidWizard · « **Reply #10 on:** January 10, 2006, 11:19:44 AM »

I have a 1300 Riot gun Marine and I use slugs on bear and 1 and 2 buck for in the house .I have shot one bear at 75 ft twice with a slug and either one would have kille him,out to say 125 feet with open 1300 Marine Riot sights I have put good killing groups together.

nasem · « **Reply #11 on:** January 10, 2006, 12:20:03 PM »

InterpidWizard,

How much did that bear weight ? Cause I was told the bears are very large at the area Im going to