Author Topic: New BP Equivalents (Read 599 times)

Dana C · « **on:** December 08, 2005, 05:56:51 PM »

BP or at least the real thing is becoming or has been a pain in the butt to buy. You have to order and from most places, a case at a time.

I have a three rifles, a 45/120, 50-100 and a 45-90. What are you all using out their in lieu of BP. I have heard about the new Goex product but havn't read any reviews on how it has worked out on the range.

I have not reloaded for my BP cartridge rifles for around three years and am feeling the itch to make lots of smoke and big holes. Any feedback you guys can give me will be much appreciated.
Thanks!

slayer · « **Reply #1 on:** December 09, 2005, 10:23:01 AM »

APP seams to be the best and cleanest of the bunch, but a little slower volume for volume with other powders. I would rather use smokeless if I couldn`t use Black, but since you want an alternative to Black, Pyrodex is the next best thing in my opinion and it smokes just about as much, ands as we know, the smoke is half the fun!! Goex makes pre-loaded blackpowder rifle shells, but I just can`t find them, I want to try them in my BC .45/70 If you are reloading, I would use Pyrodex for the power and smoke factor and even smells similar to Black. Jack.

Ray Newman · « **Reply #2 on:** December 09, 2005, 02:24:52 PM »

Slayer: what is APP?

Buffalo Arms carries the GOEX ammunition:

http://www.buffaloarms.com/browse.cfm/2,322.html

BUFFALO ARMS CO.
660 Vermeer Court
Ponderay, ID 83852
Phone (208) 263-6953
FAX (208) 265-2096
Store Hours 8 am to 4:30 pm Pacific Time

I believe that Powder Inc, a GOEX distributors has the GOEX-loaded cartridges.

Powder, Inc.
1861 North College Ave.
Clarksville, AR 72830
479-705-0005, Fax: 479-754-6281
Toll Free: 877-833-1799
E-mail: powderinc@centurytel.net
www.powderinc.com

IIRC, correctly, both Powder Inc & GRAFS will ship BP in lots of less than 25#, but you still pay the HAZMAT fee.
http://www.grafs.com/

Pyrodex is harder to ignite than BP, & still requires a meticulous cleaning procedure.

slayer · « **Reply #3 on:** December 11, 2005, 01:09:04 PM »

Thanks for the info Ray!! APP American Pioneer Powder. It seams to be the cleanest according to some fellas. Jack.

dodd3 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 06, 2006, 05:04:27 AM »

i am useing wano fff premium at the moment in my bc i dont no if you guys get the premium in the usa but if you com across it give it a go,in the 45/70 with a compresd load its very clean burning powder with a low sd its not bad in the muzzel loaders as well cheep here in australia compaird to swiss or goex when you can get them .

bernie