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Offline Mac11700

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« on: January 12, 2006, 02:57:09 PM »
Everybody...and I do mean everybody..please just chill out ..life is way to short ...not to want to go and enjoy it for a change...Niether Quick or myself have left our moderating post yet...and until we do...I would very much appreciate if everyone does try to act properly...not fan any flames...and please stop blaming everyone and their brothers,aunt's,uncles,and old flea riddled hound dogs for other folks problems..and let's not make more problems for Greybeard..he doesn't need it...I don't need it...Quick doesn't need it...and honestly...none of you do either...

Now...everyone....BREATH DEEPLY...exhale...Breath deeply.....exhale....there...I certainly feel better...I hope you do too... :D

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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2006, 02:58:47 PM »
i knew you would be back

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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2006, 03:03:49 PM »
I nor Quick have officially left let...and until that time...we will still honour our commitments to Greybeard...and do our moderators jobs as we have told Bill we would.

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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2006, 03:08:51 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2006, 03:13:35 PM »
I glad you haven't left and I hope you don't. why don't we all just talk abot guns and hunting and shooting for a change. You and Tim are good men and the handi forum is what it is in a large part due the participation of 2 good moderators. Keep up the good work.
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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2006, 03:17:55 PM »
What is this all about?  I don't know nothing.  I feel like a mushroom.  You and Quick can't bail out on us!  What would happen to this forum without your steady hands at the helm?

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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2006, 03:33:01 PM »
I'm sorry to hear about all the hard feelings on this forum.   Until a couple of months ago I had browsed it every day with great enjoyment.  I bought a couple of other guns (.44 Mag. Bisley Vaquero and Universal M-1 Carbine)--so in the interim I have been browsing other forums.

This place used to feel like a FAMILY.  Now I come back and it sounds like the aftermath of a civil war.  I hope we don't lose the likes of Tim, Mac, and some of the other former frequent posters.

I don't know what happened, but I hate to hear Graybeard, Mac, Tim, etc. sounding so beaten up.
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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2006, 03:53:03 PM »
Mainer there are no hard feelings here :mrgreen:

this is just internet forum fun :mrgreen:

just a game :mrgreen:

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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2006, 04:18:26 PM »
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Mainer there are no hard feelings here :mrgreen:

this is just internet forum fun :mrgreen:

just a game :mrgreen:


Perhaps to you Jeff...but not me.I choose not to stoop to the level you and a few others have elected to take it....Like I said before....Life is too short...it's time to get out and start enjoying it...

Breath in Mac.....exhale.....Breath in....exhale...there...I'm feeling better again...time to continue with my  cleaning chores...oh...by the way...there are some forum members who need some help with posting pictures and some things...why don't you stop playing your games and help out?

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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2006, 04:28:16 PM »
I haven't been posting much here or anywhere else lately--a few health issues have sorta sapped my strength a bit over the last few months.

I have been following the threads though...I like reading about my favorite rifles here and over on the CZ and online matches forums over to RFC.

I didn't post on the "308 gone" thread because I felt like there was a certain amount of truth to the derogatory insinuations a few have made about those who post the most, to paraphrase what I perceive as the gist of what was said. Anyone who's been around here for a few months should have known these remarks were directed at Quick and Mac.

At first I thought, "hey, why don't Quick and Mac respond?". Then I realized that the "stuff" being posted about them was not only insulting but BENEATH comment. My grandmother taught me to ignore the small stuff; the folks who make fun and maliciously tease and make snide remarks and “stir the pot” are mostly just jealous anyway.

So, I did what I felt a bigger man should do and ignored the B.S. flak that I saw going around. I've seen it on other sites and it just doesn't seem worthy of a response, as in "I won't dignify that comment (or whatever) by responding.

I thought that Quick and Mac were doing the same thing.

When Bill (Graybeard) took the time and energy to comment on the shenannigans I felt that something bad was gonna happen if the kids didn't stop slinging mud on the walls.

OK, now Tim and Mac have removed all the stickies and good advice that they have shared with us. Kids, this is punishment, whether you realize it or not.
 
Yeah, I've been rubbed the wrong way by a couple of Mac's posts, and I admit that I am a bit jealous over Tim's fabulous collection and the time he has since he's retired, and I still must punch a clock for my bread (or will when I finally am able to return to work). But the fact is, that even at his advanced age and recent health issues he still was forthcoming with the tips and links we all benefited from.

Did these guys post all this info and links and helpful tips and experience out of a desire to share knowlege, or was it bragging and the "big fish in a little pond" syndrome?

I can't believe the latter.

I would hate to think that they got insulted and took their bats and gloves home and pulled in all of their stickies too. I feel that they are bigger men than that. But if that's how they really feel they are certainly within their rights to do just that. I mean, why hang around where you ain't appreciated?

But I think that either way, we're getting what we deserve.

As far as all of this being "internet fun",  if that's what anyone really thinks they're showing their ignorance and lack of appreciation.

I've seen this type of thing happen on other boards, RFC, Marlin.com, to name just two, and it's never pretty.

Someone like Bill is nice enough to establish a place for like-minded individuals to share thoughts, knowlege and opinions.  The door is open to all who will follow the rules.

You come in to someone's place, you wipe your feet or remove your shoes, don't pick your nose in public, etc., and then somebody comes in and tracks mud on the carpet and complains that the free beer ain't cold enuff or the right brand.  Then they get their nose out of joint about one thing or another and want to pick a fight, usually about some fine point that they really have no clue as to the bigger picture, like the 30-30AI debate--yeah, it can be done---MAYBE, if the tolerances stack up the right way.  But the bigger issues get ignored, like the fact that there are many novices that read the boards and take what they see there and maybe go and try something that will get them or another person hurt.

 Some folks just ain't got no manners.

Yeah, sometimes Mac comes across as a bit superior or like he knows more about our favorite rifles.  Why shouldn't he...it is, for the most part, true, after all.

Some folks just can't stand it when another person has more knowledge or wisdom, and it comes out in their posts.  I have noticed Mac time and again trying to word his posts so as not to trample on another person's feelings; to impart a fact or a correction in a way that educates without intimidating.  That's hard to do, and is in my estimation a mark of a "gentleman", of a truely generous spirit.



I just hope that Bill doesn't just pull the plug on this whole forum.

This IS his house.  We're all just guests here.   Mac and Tim do a lot of work here keeping the windows washed and the fridge stocked.  Let's show a little respect.

If all this sounds like a bunch of hooey, well it's just my opinion, i guess.

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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2006, 04:31:46 PM »
wow,

I have been immersed in boat forums and real life issues lately. I have not been able to load any of my 357 max brass yet. Yesterday I finally bought the primers, so maybe soon. Thanks Leftoverdj, hope you to the reamer back by now. It worked like a charm.

I have been checking in and noticed the ".308 got the boot" thread and silly me, I thought someone was culling their gun safe Laughing

I hope everyone cools off a little, learns a little something from all of this mess, and returns so we can all continue farting around with our guns and talking about it.

Without much of the input from many on this forum, I would not have done half as much as I have recently with my rifles. Thanks


Note: the above was posted on another thread and I though it would be better here, I agree with the tone of this thread more

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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2006, 04:32:12 PM »
mac. please dont let a few people speak for the rest of us. I appreciate the work and advice that you and quick give. heck if it werent for you guys i may have given up on my handi before it got half a chance to show me what it can do. thanks.   T

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Respect
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2006, 04:36:42 PM »
Respect. Respect works both ways. You give some you get some.

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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2006, 04:47:25 PM »
See my post below.
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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2006, 04:53:01 PM »
John...isn't he the one who said it was a internet game?..It wasn't a flame towards him...it was asking him to stop and help out some fellow forum members...How...and more importantly why would you take what I said completely out of context?

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« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2006, 04:58:16 PM »
Haven't posted earlier because it seemed to be what Bill wanted. Let things cool down and all.

I gotta say thanks to Quick, Mac, SS and Fred for all their help. My rifles shoot well because of the help you've given freely to me.

Hats off to you.

Rick

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« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2006, 05:35:22 PM »
To Mac, Quick, and the others that have offered their help and advice based on their experiences, Thank you. This was a good home for all of us Handi owners, but it has changed from what it was before this last flare up that brought this issue up front. Some have said and others will say that flames etc. are just part of the norm and deal with it. I think there was something more to this forum. Common courtesy and yes some good natured ribbing. What was here was a common interest and enthusiam for a neat rifle that inspired many us to buy more rifles and barrels and improve them. Now over a period time this common interest has degenerated into cliques that have altered this forum into what we have now. I don't post on the forum much, but have enjoyed all of the information and the chance to learn more. It is a shame that this has happened. Time to move on for this kid. I hope this sorts out in the end for everyone.


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« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2006, 05:51:00 PM »
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I hope things can chill a little here. Each barrage courts another.


I certainly agree...

John..if I have offended you...or anyone else on this forum..I do apologize...here and now..and... you needn't worry...about me calling you and wanting to talk about your reasons I'll respect your wishes...but know this..feel free to call me when ever you want....True...I may appear to be be arrogant to some...but honestly Cheatermike...I don't know more than a-lot of people here...There are a-lot of good intellengent people here...I am opinionated as has been said here...it's true...I know I am...but I can also say I very passionate about what I do as well...and I do know what I'm doing....and most of the time I look at everything within the entire conversation and try to keep everything in mind what was said when responding...hoping I have understood their meaning...sometimes I nail it on the head...other times I miss...I human...and I can't hear you speak..or see their expessions on their faces..

John...Everyone is intitalled to their opinions...and I will state it again...They are intitalled to post it as long as it stays within the rules..my job as moderator doesn't say I can't post my opinion.....or say I can't get sick and not feel good and be testy...or even ask someone to help.If you think it rude..I'm sorry...

I still have a-lot to do ...and I hope no-one takes offence to this post...it will be my last one until I say goodbye to all of my friends here...Life goes on..So...I don't want anyone thinking I mean anything bad by this...so...would all of you guys out there...help out the new guys and those with questions...Please..I would appreciate it..

Thanks

Mac
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Re: Respect
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2006, 06:38:14 PM »
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Respect. Respect works both ways. You give some you get some.


i suspect that you came back from 'time-out' as soon as you had a chance knowing that you really don't want to stick around here.   a lot of the guys have voiced support for you; but i wonder if you aren't trying to get thrown out of here.

give it a break for a little while is what i'd suggest!    maybe this place can go back to what it once was.......if two of our Moderators don't quit.       how will we replace all their time-consuming work and effort ---- with two new ones who will make all those sacrifices?

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« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2006, 07:00:26 PM »
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OK, now Tim and Mac have removed all the stickies and good advice that they have shared with us. Kids, this is punishment, whether you realize it or not.


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« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2006, 07:38:03 PM »
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I said, I will heed to my ways, that I sin not with my tongue, I will keep my mouth with a bridle, while the wicket is before me.

Psalm 39

There is no loss for Mac and Tim only regret and sorrow.
God bess you whatever you decide.
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« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2006, 01:01:12 AM »
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« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2006, 06:25:47 AM »
mac ,and quick and all the rest,my dad told me when i was growing up, anyone can make a baby , real men raise them.  stick around watch us grow
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« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2006, 08:17:47 PM »
Wow.
I just discovered this sight in my quest for info on my handi's and have been well-pleased.

I'm a mod on another sight and I'm amazed/shocked at the hardships felt here.  I hope they are healed soon.

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« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2006, 02:09:09 AM »
You never would have seen those feelings until about a week ago, It was like one big happy family, at least on the surface. Things are thankfully and happily healing now, and healing quickly. The more I think about this site it is like any other closeknit family, good times and hard times, but all in all, it is probably the best site around, populated by the most knowledgeable and friendly guys you could ever ask for. Of course we all have our little idiosincracies (sp?), all except me perhaps :-D  :-D  :-D, since I retired I take things much less seriously, which causes me to have no behavioral problems, oh wait, perhaps I'm getting more behavioral problems since I retired, since I am no longer required by "the job" to be nice to those persons who don't deserve it.... :-D  :-D  :-D . Consider yourself welcomed aboard and if you do anything bad to me I'll tell Mom and Dad on you!!!....<><.... :grin:
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