Author Topic: I had an AD tonite! (Read 841 times)

Dusty Miller · « **on:** March 02, 2006, 09:15:35 PM »

And THAT'S a bald faced lie cuz their ain't no such thing as an "accidental discharge". The ugly truth of the matter is that I HAD MY FINGER ON THE TRIGGER!! Stupid as stupid can be. I took the dog for a walk and its dark outside my house ( I live in the country) so I pulled my Kimber 45 ACP out of my belt and BANG!! I almost shot my dog. Well, the safety on that gun slips off all to easily and its going to the shop for a stronger spring or whatever it takes but the bottom line is I HAD MY FINGER ON THE TRIGGER!! All's well that ends well but it makes me mad as hell that I did something that stupid. :x

williamlayton · « **Reply #1 on:** March 02, 2006, 10:56:24 PM »

Tell's us all that a gun has no conscious and will only do what we instruct it too.
We should all pratcice safty every minute we have one in our possesion and assume we are going to do something to discharge it.
Glad all is ok.
Blessings

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 03, 2006, 01:08:00 AM »

Glad you are OK. It just goes to show, anything can happen at any time.

Savage · « **Reply #3 on:** March 03, 2006, 01:28:49 AM »

Dusty,
Glad both you and the dog are OK! Tell me, was that the LOUDEST gunshot you ever heard? The unexpected one's usually are! :shock:
Savage

Glanceblamm · « **Reply #4 on:** March 03, 2006, 02:09:59 AM »

Dusty
Glad That You and the dog are ok. Quite a sobering experience.

mjbgalt · « **Reply #5 on:** March 03, 2006, 02:38:01 AM »

i did it once...i went outside with my .357 magnum to shoot a coon that was into our trash. the coon was gone so i went back in and laid the gun down and since it was 1am i got ready for bed and picked it back up a little while later.

i read that when you get a new revolver you should dry fire a bit to "break it in" and so i did. i "dry fired" it right into the wall! :eek:

yep...loudest gunshot ever. i woke up at 5 am totally deaf and scared to death i might stay that way.

Easy to do dumb stuff sometimes and it happens to the best of us. Ted Nugent had one where somehow he put away a loaded .22-250 and his son, then 4 or 5, set it off by running a toy car along the lock chain that ran through the trigger guards in his open-front cabinet. he did it during a meeting Ted was having downstairs about safe hunting. not good timing.

-Matt

Questor · « **Reply #6 on:** March 03, 2006, 04:27:30 AM »

Dusty:

I did that once at the range. Don't be too hard on yourself. The most important thing was that you had instinctively applied good muzzle control. That's what kept a brain f*rt from becoming a disaster.

Castaway · « **Reply #7 on:** March 03, 2006, 10:09:53 AM »

I did it once sitting in a tree stand. What a lesson learned! Hopefully I won't have another, but you can bet your bottom dollar it won't be under the same circumstances. That one is written in BOLD face type in my mental book of things not to do again.

corbanzo · « **Reply #8 on:** March 03, 2006, 12:06:11 PM »

Had an old stevens model 49 12 gauge, that when cocked, you could pull the trigger when it was on safe... then push on the bolt and it would fire. Goes to show you.. dont pull until your ready to shoot.

KN · « **Reply #9 on:** March 03, 2006, 12:07:18 PM »

Not to flame too hard but thats why they make holsters. All good quality holsters will cover the trigger. Stuffing one in your pants is a NO-NO. KN

Mainer · « **Reply #10 on:** March 03, 2006, 12:47:10 PM »

Dusty: Thanks for the honest report on what happened. It is a sobering reminder that none of us, no matter how much or how long we handle firearms, can let down our guard when it comes to gun safety.

Thanks also for the reminder to NOT RELY SOLELY ON MECHANICAL SAFETIES. In this case, the safety failed you.

KN: I don't know whether a holster that covers the trigger is safer or not. On the one hand, it may keep your finger off the trigger when it shouldn't be there in the first place. On the other, it creates the danger that you'll fire the gun if you make a mistake and stuff the gun into the holster with your finger on the trigger.

NONYA · « **Reply #11 on:** March 03, 2006, 02:20:32 PM »

excuse my opinion but if your walking around with a round in the chamber and the gun stuck in your belt your lucky you arnt laying on a cold slab,ever hear the theroy about not chambering a round until you are ready to shoot?It makes alot more sense than getting a stronger spring on the saftey :eek:

KN · « **Reply #12 on:** March 03, 2006, 03:57:24 PM »

If you stick the gun in your pants, pocket, belt, gun rug, range bag, or just about any where else with your finger on the trigger it's going to go off sooner or later. Thats one of the primary purposes of a holster is to protect the trigger. If you carry in a pants pocket there are pocket holsters designed to do the same. I have heard of small pistols going off in the pocket caused by keys or what ever getting in the trigger guard. If you have a habbit of trying to holster you pistol with your finger in the trigger then you need some serious firearms training. Basic rule of handling : You don't put your finger on the trigger untill you are ready to fire. KN

jimster · « **Reply #13 on:** March 03, 2006, 05:27:38 PM »

Some of us learn the hard way, your not alone, and I feel like I should tell you of my AD, had one once myself.
I was 21 years old, walking the crick on the side of a bank, and surprised a big woodchuck. I pulled my Ruger single six out, (had the 22 mag cylinder in it) thumbed back the hammer and drew a bead on him. The chuck scuried down the bank before I could touch her off, I was watching the chuck to see where he'd stop, and this whole time my hammer is still back...I went to steo over some dead fall, WITH MY HAMMER back and FINGER ON THE TRIGGER, and miss stepped while trying to get accross that dead tree, and the gun went off. Kicked up dirt right in front of me, good thing the gun was pointed down. I checked my boots to make sure there wasn't a hole in one of them.

I'm 49 years old, I will never forget this as long as I live, it's almost like it happened yesterday.
Never told Dad of course, he would have kicked my butt for that, he always was drilling me on safety.
Thought I'd fess up.
I've been pretty safe since then, I guess something like that stays with you a long time.

Jimster

rockbilly · « **Reply #14 on:** March 03, 2006, 05:51:34 PM »

Well glad to hear there ain't no parts and pieces of the old body that suffered damage. This just supports my aurgment that the old .45 should not be packed with the hammer cocked. I have no problem with a hot chamber, just don't like the hammer back till I am ready to use it. I know, I know, you wanna be ready, but it only takes a second to pull it back. :wink:

Savage · « **Reply #15 on:** March 04, 2006, 01:19:26 AM »

Nonya/Rockbilly,
Come on guys, the 1911 is as safe as any pistol when carried "cocked and locked". Any pistol carried for defensive purposes, MUST be ready to go. This was no fault of gun design, Dusty called it like it was, no finger on trigger, no bang! A Glock must give you guys nightmares! No mechanical safeties----------SHUDDER!
:roll:
Savage[/u]

Mainer · « **Reply #16 on:** March 04, 2006, 02:10:48 AM »

Can you use your thumb to prevent the hammer on a 1911 from falling when initiating a draw or reholstering?? If so, adding this to your technique might add an extra level of safety. I'm thinking of sort of the reverse of what you can do with a DA revolver or a DA auto with an exposed hammer on which you can keep your thumb clamped on the hammer while drawing or reholstering.

Of course, none of the above is a substitute for adhering to normal rules of gun safety, but it might add another marginl of safety.

shermbob · « **Reply #17 on:** March 04, 2006, 02:14:02 AM »

rockbilly, I wont argue about cocked & locked even though mine is but have you ever been in a situation where 1 more sec is NOT available I have. Its to late to run duck jump or dodge. Ill keep mine ready. If you have to cock it first you need a different gun/revolver/glock or something similar.
shermbob

ShootnStr8 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 04, 2006, 03:42:22 AM »

Thanks, Dusty and others being so candid about ADs. I appreciated your courage in being so open and honest. I believe sharing such events remind us that we just can't let our guard down for an instant when it comes to firearm safety.

And, yes, I've had an AD too and it was my own stupid fault. My mom still has a drywall patch in the ceiling of her home where my 12 gauge put a nice hole. Loaded 12 guage in the house with a finger on the trigger -- Stupid!

My dad lost his leg as the result of an AD that happen when a fellow Marine was cleaning his BAR during the Koren War.

We have to be thinking safety ALL the time.

Blessings!

ShootnStr8

jimster · « **Reply #19 on:** March 04, 2006, 03:43:48 AM »

I don't have a problem with cocked and locked on a 1911 at all, I'm not shy about the hammer back on that type of pistol.
Finger on the trigger is what makes it go boom.
Same for all pistols, regardless what action type.
I practice at the outdoor range sweeping the slide on an un-chambered 1911, only to remind me it's more to think about, and a tad harder.
I know how to sweep the slide while drawing, but I'm not going to do it, I'm carrying mine cocked and locked.
I have learned to not put my finger in the trigger gaurd until ready to shoot though. Finger stays pointed same direstion as the barrel while drawing or re-holstering. I can get my finger in that trigger gaurd fast enough when ready to shoot.

I don't think it matters much which kind of gun you have, if your finger is not on the trigger, it's not going boom.