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Offline cdknox

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« on: March 05, 2006, 10:12:04 AM »
I had a case blow up in my .223 yesterday. I was able to get the cartridge out and I was wondering if I should contact Black Hills Ammo or not and what do they usually do for problems like this. I'm kind of afraid to shoot the rest of the box. By the way it was the blue box 52 gr. moly coated. It was shooting amazing, nearly one hole groups, before this case. I knew something was wrong when that shell was like 8 inches to the left. I didn't even notice the entire case didn't come out until I couldn't put a new one in. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2006, 11:48:12 AM »
You're not the first, I'd not recommend you use that ammo any more...

Tim

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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2006, 11:58:47 AM »
Is the reason I don't use black hills ammo. Your not the first to have this experience .  I guess calling them and letting them know what happened wouldnt hurt.

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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2006, 12:24:06 PM »
Your trouble is too much head space. Check how far the cartridges enter the chamber. Anything more than 0.005" could cause a case separation.

This could be worse if you have a gap beween the barrel and the standing breech. Check all the cartridges with a ruler accross the chamber and use a feeler gage and throw out any over 0.005". Best not to use this stuff.

A tight lock up is very important on any Handi. Handi's are notorious for gaps in the breech. Fixing the gap may solve your trouble. Fitted hand loads are your best bet.
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2006, 12:36:38 PM »
I was able to get the blown case out by just putting a screwdriver into the remaining case and pulling it out. I don't think I scratched the chamber. Do you think I will have problems with WWB not ejecting properly when I switch back to it. I only bought the black hills because it was one sale.

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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2006, 12:53:22 PM »
I don't think you'll have any problem when you go back to the WWB loads. What you experienced is common with reloaded cases that have not been pulled from service at the end of their useful life. Individuals that handload learn to record how many times each box of brass has been reloaded and toss before case seperations happen. Black Hills and other commerial reloaders have no way of monitoring case life. If they pass a visual inspection, they are loaded again. Some companies claim to use only once fired brass, but when they buy brass picked up from ranges and shooting clubs, they can not be sure of its history. Just my thoughts.
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2006, 03:43:12 PM »
Wally, I think you're right on the money--I wouldn't want to think that Black Hills is using just any old range sweepings for their brass, and I'd think that there'd be a better way to inspect cases, like some kind of x-ray machine or something; but it's possible, I guess, that even once-fired military brass could be stretched enough in a military chamber to be unsafe after only one trip through the sizing die.  I've never bought reloaded ammo since I make my own, but I do look at my fired brass and if that bright ring at the end of the case web goes all the way around the case, I toss it.  I left an entire batch of empties (about 500) in the trash because many of them were showing this ring--I do not know how many times they'd been fired but I do know this batch is the first big lot I bought when I started PD shooting 13 years ago so they'd been fired at least 8 times apiece, with near-max loads.

Yes, the best method is to keep your lots together and record the number of firings and trimmings.  after two trimmings, they're pretty much on their last legs I've learned not to trim a third time.

cdknox, I've found that a bronze bore brush or M-16 chamber brush, will work good to pull what's left of a separated case from the chamber.  Just put it on a short rod, like a pistol rod or one segment of a break-down type rod, and push it into the case from the chamber end (for a 223 case I used a 30-caliber bore brush) and pullit out.  The ends of the bristles will grab the case and pull it out.

Please do not ask how I know this.