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« on: March 05, 2006, 07:52:36 PM »
I recently purchased a M70 Classic Stainless in .375.  I've wanted one for some time and the horribly sad closing of the plant that makes the M70 kicked the purchase into gear. I've been shooting it with the irons while I wait for a Brockmans QD Talley base with the integrated peep for backup. I intend to shoot the rifle for the rest of the year with iron sights from field positions in order to become familiar with it.

I have read that you shoot one of these rifles and that you use a proper synthetic stock on it.  What is the brand name and style you use, if you don't mind sharing?  I have a few ideas of what I want, but am very interested in what you are using.

The other question I have, as I anxiously await my dies, is what load do you use?  From reading some of your posts I recognize that you like the Swift A-Frame.  What I am looking for is a good practice round to familiarize myself with the rifle, likely will be the Hornady 270 if my rifle likes it. What is "the" bullet, in your experience, that is the one to use for any heavy game that one might want to persue with the .375? I have been shooting the inexpensive Rem 270gr Express loads and find them quite accurate, but I would think there is a flatter shooting bullet out there...and certainly one that would perform better on flesh and bone.  I don't really see the need for premium (Norma) brass in a round like this, but your input would be appreciated. Can almost get 300 pieces of Rem brass for what 100 Norma cost...have a pretty good idea which would provide more practice for the outlay of cash.

I greatly appreciate any input you might have on this matter.

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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2006, 03:20:51 AM »
I'm convinced that unless your hunting thick skinned game or buffalo (not bison) all you need is the 270 grain bullets. If you desire the swift AFrames theyare the best 270 going right now. I have seen quite a few brown bears and dozens of black beras kiled with the 270's as well as all African plains game. That includes Eland and Giraffe.

The 270's have killed everything shot with ease. They shoot flatter then a 180 from a 30/06 and have incredible wind bucking ability.

The 300 grain bullets are just right for Buffalo, hippo, etc. An American bison can be taken with much less then the 300's grain bullets. I have killed a number of them with the 30/06 and nevr had any problems. Even the much tougher Moose is no problem at all witht he 270 grain bullets
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2006, 02:54:51 AM »
Not to get off the suject matter but JJhack if you were hunt soe of the biggest moose in the world what ranfe of caliber would you personally use??   :D
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2006, 04:47:52 AM »
Since I only have two hunting rifles it would be the 30/06 or the 375. The decision would come from the type of habitat and the amount of back country travel involved
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2006, 08:22:39 AM »
It seem's that JJHack is really a hunter and not a gun nut. Ofered a perfect excuse to buy a new rifle and he doesn't grab it.
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2006, 11:03:20 AM »
I always thought he was a bit strange!! :-D
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2006, 06:38:32 PM »
JJ,
any input on the stock question?  The injection molded item that came with the rifle will be replaced, it is not much of a stock...or much to look at.  Accuracy is good so far with the factory ammo so I am in no rush to replace the handle, but it's going to happen.

I think I will settle on the 270gr bullets for the time being until I get truly used to the rifle.  Looking at the ballistic charts I am pretty impressed with the round, I'll be even more impressed when I back up the charts  with bullets on paper at varying ranges.

Thanks for the info.

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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2006, 04:39:21 AM »
A proper fitting stock is as important a part of the rifle as the barrel or action in my opinion. The stock should be measured and fit with you as the pimary user. The typical stock made in the world is for the typical guy. With the average male at 5'9" tall in the world. If you're not then those standard stocks will not likely fit either.  The long eye relief of the scope is what makes most stocks fit properly. Thats fine for bench shooting but not so good when you throw up the gun freehand and try to get a clear picture through the scope.

Try this,..... close both eyes and bring the gun up to shooting position. Settle into the stock quickly with cheek planted into the stock and open your shooting eye. If you're not even close to seeing clearly through the scope you need stock work, or different lower rings and bases.  If you can see well with a touch of adjustment to your view then you're probably Okay. Just be sure you have maximum eye relief set into the scope.

Make sure you have used all the eye relief the way it was designed in. For your eye protection, not to make the stock fit you!

Three stocks come to mind, Walnut, laminated, and synthetic. I have owned and used all three. Both my hunting rifles are stainless steel with synthetic stocks made by Pacific research to fit me exactly. Pacific Research has sold the stock making to James Borden back east someplace. He is worth looking into, second choice is Mcmillan also a top maker.

If you have a blued gun synthetic is not as critical because you still have to really care for the rifle exceptionally well. Blued guns rust fast and severe so that synthetic stock is not matching up with the whole package.

My 468 Lott work rifle is blued. I only use it in Africa, it's a dry climate. I went with a laminated walnut stock and am very glad I did. The newest of laminated stocks are inexpensive compared to walnut customs stocks and are hell for stout. They will not split, warp, expand or contract. Simply put they are the best idea going for a blued rifle used for serious rough hunting conditions.

The down side is the finish work if you get a blank. The amount of resin compressed with heat into that wood makes sanding them into form difficult. You also need to be very careful who you pick a stock from. The outside pieces need to be thick, as in 3/16 or so to allow proper checkering. Thin laminated stocks when checkered through the first layer will have the checkering break away over time. My 458Lott stock has each side 1/4" thick from the same piece of wood the grain on both sides match. Yet the center of the stock looks like walnut plywood when viewed from the top. From the side the majority(all) of the wood looks as if it's one solid piece. They also tend to be heavier then synthetic and walnut do to the resin. Might help with the balance and some recoil help. But they will weigh a bit more then pure walnut, and 2-3 times what a synthetic stock weighs.

The solid walnut stocks custom made from nice wood are a thing of beauty when checkered properly. However they are not for me on a hunting rifle. I don't own a single walnut custom fitted stock. They are a risk to warp, split, expand contract, barrel flex issues are significant when flying or moving from habitats that have a different humidity index. I would also worry too much about dinging or scratching.

If your gun is blued and you want that resolved/improved, I strongly urge you to send the action and rings once the whole works is sorted out to Robar in Phoenix. They will put a black matte coating called Roguard on your rifle that will make it nearly into a stainless quality finsih. This industrial coating applied by experts in the firearm industry and military business is as good as it gets for rust prevention. My 30/06 is stainless but I sent it to them anyway so that it would be black. They did the whole thing including the rings bases and the screws.  Good stuff.

Finally the recoil pad. I have Decelerators on all three rifles. My two hunting and the Lott. No complaints, fit is good last a long time and they work as well as any I have tried.
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