Hi-Point's, junk, fair, or a great value? Be honest now.

[Redhawk1]

GB, I'm glad you left it open long enough for me to weigh in.
I have never owned or shot any of the Hi Point handguns nor do they look like anything I would ever care to own one. But....I have to comment on the Hi Point carbine. It is ugly. Construction and materials are very unimpressive. I would not choose it as a to for saving my live if I had other choices.
Having said that, I bought mine new for $100 about 2 years ago and 4 or 5 trips to the range have allowed me to put 800 rounds through it at 25 and 50 yards, It was surprisingly accurate and I have never had one jam, failure to fire or failure to eject. not one!
I don't get it.The piece of junk just won't act up. Go figure

v-man, my son has the carbine also from Hi-point. He shoots it a lot, but there is a big difference between the carbine and the pistols. For some reason the carbines seem to work better than the pistoles I have shot and seen. Also the carbine is not use for selfdefence, just a plinker.  

[squirrel]

This post has been up for awhile, and nobody is probably reading it anymore, but I'm going to throw in my opinion. I agree with the person that said most people that say Hi-point is junk have never owned one. I have the .45 and the 9mm. Yes they are ugly, clunky and have a cheap made slide. BUT...I paid $135 for the .45 and $110 for the 9mm brand new and out the door about 4 years ago and have put countless rounds of ammo through both of them. Everything from wolf, reloads, and hornady +P's and NEVER once had a misfire or a jam...EVER! I can also shoot a better group at 25 yards than he can with his Ruger P89 and his Norinco .45 clone(which is an absolute POS but you always seem to here good things about them for some reason?) Ugly...yes, Unreliable and junk...NO. Looks ain't everything, kinda like my 79 Ford F250 that has pulled out many a stuck Z71's and big bad Dodges in its day

[vonfatman]

I agree the gun(s) look and feel cheesy (IMHO).

I agree the gun's reputation would make me pass on it as a defense unit (unless it was my only gun of choice).

But I would pass on the Hi-Points because EVERY one I have shot at the range had HORRIBLE TRIGGERS.  If I had to use a Hi-Point, I don't think I'd shoot very much.  It's not much fun to go to the range when the trigger makes hitting the bull’s-eye nearly impossible.

Maybe I'm just too picky, but a used $200.00 Model 10 S&W can shoot circles around many guns including every Hi-Point I have ever handled and shot.

But hey, I'm darn glad that we have Hi-Point and other like type manufactures out there because not everyone's budget is flush enough for a Sig or H&K.

Bob

[Questor]

This thread sounds like another reminder that simply finding a cheap gun, then finding another one that costs about $100 more is usually the best policy. Penny wise and dollar foolish just doesn't cut it with firearms.

[simplicity]

I've have fire two hi point pistols the compact 9mm and a full size 45 the 9mm was a jammomatic and the 45 you pretty much needed a C-clamp to squeeze the trigger to get it to shoot but I will say this about the full size 45 it is a tank if it jammed and you had to pistol whip a perp you'd only have to hit them once. as far as the carbines go I've heard nothing but good things about them though I've never shot one. but as far as the pistols go I will aggree with most in here as to say JUNK. If you want a fairly inexspensive pistol look at the EAA witness's CZ knock offs but I've found them to be pretty reliable. with the one I own and the two others I've worked with.

[His lordship.]

It has been my understanding that inexpensive guns like these, and the old Raven P-25 pistols, are purchased by low income elements who want something cheap.  The gun, any gun, should be tested at the gun range first to make sure it works.  But for something to keep in the night stand in the "bad" neighborhoods, I could see looking into it if the warranty options were good should it not shoot at least 50 rounds reliably.

I used to have a Raven P-25, I took excellent care of it, worked great for 600 rounds, but the metal was soft and the slide began to bend out and accuracy declined as it got older.  My friend now owns it to keep in his store.

[Rum River]

I have not owned one, but have dealt with 3 of them through conducting carry classes and ROing for our summer pistol league.

Two of them were 9mm, the other was a .40 S&W.

One of the 9mm worked OK. It seemed accurate, although I personally did not care for the clunky trigger pull. You could get rounds on target, but it took a LOT of attention and a slow steady pull on the trigger. I have an old trigger pull gauge that only goes to 4 1/2 pounds, the trigger pull was significantly more than that. It was a hot day, and it didn't take long before it was very difficult to hold on to the slippery grip.

The other 9mm, at 7 yards, had 7-8 rounds out of 10 shots keyholing on the paper. It functioned reliably, but the barrel was so bad bullets were striking the target sideways at only 21 feet. The owner took it back to the dealer, who sent it to Hi Point, who replaced the whole pistol for free. The replacement seemed to work fine.

The .40 S&W had the identical problem described above, bullets keyholing at 21 feet. It was resolved the same way, I never heard how well the replacement .40 performed.

[Rum River]

Oops, forgot one more.

A 9mm was used by one other shooter in our summer league. He had jamming problems.

The dealer and the owner worked for awhile to find the problem. It was finally decided to be a combination of being ammo sensitive, and occasional limp wristing.

The dealer claimed he fired over 200 rounds with no problems, while the owner had trouble when using some bulk Winchester ammo he had bought. When the owner switched to different ammunition (I can't remember what it was) he had better luck. He still had an occasional jam, but not as many. As RO, I know he still had some jams even though he was definitely NOT limp wristing.

For what it's worth....................