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Offline MACHINIST

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« on: March 08, 2006, 02:04:06 AM »
I have made up my mind after shooting my freinds contender in .35 remington to get one.I have found two different guns at two different gun shops and they are in the $350 range.Is the g2 worth the extra cash or should I just go with the  older model?I am mainly a deer hunter that would like to go after bear in the future so I can get that all done with the calibers that are chamberedl in the contender.How does the .35 remington stack up to black bear out to 100 yards?
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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2006, 02:52:30 AM »
I think a 35 Rem will work great on black bear.  :D
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2006, 03:01:09 AM »
While the G-2 is not as sweet as the older contender, The G-2 does have at least on advantage for hunters. IF you cock the hammer and the shot is not taken you can lower it back down and then recook it, with the older contender you will have to break the action to reset the sear in order to recook the hammer. This Is no real big deal but it is extra movement, time and noise.

IF you are not planing on using rim fires you may be better off buying an encore. it is bigger and stronger then the contender and can handle a lot bigger and hotter round, and If you want to shoot rim fire rounds you can go custom and have one made.

I have been hunting with my older contender and encore for at least 10 years and I like the encore better for big game
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2006, 07:30:20 AM »
While the 35 rem WILL handle black bears and whitetail deer to beyond 100 yards,There are many rounds chambered in the contender that will do the same. My first 35 contender barrel would not consistantly fire ! 3 frames same problem ,T/C said it was in specs?? The 30-30 , 7-30 or even the 44 mag will do the trick for you if you do not reload. If you do, the doors wide open .I have 6.5JDJ and 358JDJ barrels that I've used on bear & deer with great success. I have even used the 45-70 in a 14" barrel to kill deer. The g2 has a different "feel" to me,not bad,just different. try them both and buy the one you feel most comfortable with.
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2006, 08:12:10 AM »
I use the old style ones because I like to use my Contender for target shooting as well as hunting, and the triggers on the old ones are excellent. The feature of being able to lower the hammer without opening the barrel is a usability advantage to a hunter.
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2006, 02:51:35 AM »
Well I bought the contender last night.Thanks for the advice that you guys gave me I think that I am going to get a kick out of this thing.Now I just need a rimfire barrel and a few scopes a holster........oh-oh the disease has started.
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2006, 02:59:01 AM »
MACHINIST, your hooked now. You will experience a sudden loss of money and all kinds of new stuff in your house.  :-D  :D
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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2006, 03:15:37 PM »
It is worse than that. When I hunted with a TC Contender I found if you loaded it and then later touched the trigger the trigger would lose its "set."
Once the trigger lost its "set" you could pull the hammer back and it would not stay back. If you were involved in an active hunt this lack of hammer function was usually the first and only indication the hunter had that the trigger had been pulled or bumped. The only solution was to pull back on the trigger guard to re-engage the sear.

MAJOR pain in the butt.
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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2006, 01:09:06 PM »
You might want to check out some of the good info on Mike Bellm's site.  All I can remember is his e-mail address but if you look at Google or some search you may find a web address, also.  His e-address is mike@bellmtcs.com   He can tell you more about TC's than TC can.
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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2006, 11:13:24 AM »
I'm working on trying to get the censoring of my post on info on T/C's fixed.  If it's fixable you all will have a great source of info and repair work for your T/C products.
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« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2006, 04:44:51 PM »
So I finally find out the missing word. My recommendation to you is to give it up. You're NOT getting that idiot's name on this site. He is the least knowledgeable person I know about TCs. Oh he THINKS he knows it all but he is pulling the wool over your eyes. Most of the stuff of his I've read is merely to put money in his pocket with no help you the person putting it there.

He once posted here but was unable to follow the rules. Seems he could only talk about how bad everyone else in the industry was rather than trying to explain how and why he was so good. I kicked him off and refunded his full six months worth of advertising dollars even tho we were four months into the six.

You'd be well advised to drop any further attempts to hype him on this site. Those who push it too hard end up like him GONE.
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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2006, 03:34:40 AM »
Thanks for the replies guys I cant wait till I can get out and put this beast thru the ringer!
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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2006, 07:56:27 AM »
Mr. Graybeard,

Sorry, I didn't know you had those problems with MB.  I'm new to your forum and actually not that well acquainted with the person in question.  I guess as a consumer I listen to everyone and glean out whatever is good and let the rest pass.  I won't mention him or his business again.  Thanks for your reply.  I wondered why I'd been censored, now I know.  I enjoy your forum and look forward to a long and happy relationship with all my fellow shooters.  God bless!

                  Respectfully, Mike aka "Walks With Dog"
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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2006, 10:54:35 AM »
I had the same problems as jhalcott with the failure to fire problem on my .35 Remington Contender.  I finally decided that the problem stemmed from the small shoulder of the .35 Rem. cartridge vs a max spec T/C chamber.  Rather than spending pointless hours adjusting my loading dies and keeping the Contender's brass separate from the brass for my 3 other .35 Remington guns, I had a rim cut on the chamber making it a ".35 Remington Rimmed".  This is a fairly standard conversion, which can be done by a number of pistol smiths.

The cartridge uses cut down 30/40 Krag brass and regular .35 Remington dies.  Works great, and making the cases is just as much fun as making .35 Herrett cases :-).  A more satisfactory solution was acquiring an XP-100 in 35 Remington.  I have not had much luck using rimless cartridges in the various break open single shots,  The rimmed cases are far superior in reliability.  Just MHO.
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« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2006, 12:11:30 PM »
Rimless cases work fine with T/C's but we have to size to headspace on the shoulder which, as noted, can be tricky with the .35 Rem. because of it's small shoulder.  

Another interesting alternative to the .35 Rem. is the wildcat .35/.375 KAP.  The one I used to have was a 14 in. .357 Herrett reamed out to take a .375 Win. necked down to .35 cal.  That .375 brass is tough and you almost can't wear it out.  With 200 gr. Hornady SP's it accounted for six elk.  That 200 gr. loaded with Reloder 7 easily reached 2000 FPS.

One can neck size for most cartridges in the T/C's, thereby extending case life and making chambering correct so they'll go bang when the trigger is pulled.  If it's a case for which the RCBS Precision Mic is made it's simple to size the case the right amount.

Hope this helps someone.
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« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2006, 01:44:03 PM »
You can use a .375 Win. die to open up the .35 Rem. Case and then run it back into the .35 Rem sizer and fix the misfire problems or so I've been told. I've not done it personally as I don't have any TCs at this time.

But the problem is unique to TC barrels NOT to the .35 Remington in general. I had a SS TC barrel that fired every case I dropped into it even those that had failed to fire in other .35 Rem. barrels I had previously.

Like a fool I sent it off you that same Mike you mentioned to rechamber to his .358 super duper party pooper and he ruined it. Took forever to get it replaced and a barrel in my hands. Sure wish I'd kept that one as it was the BEST TC .35 Rem barrel I ever owned of several I had.

But I've never had a misfire in a Marlin rifle with the .35 Remingto not even those that misfired in TCs and then were fired in the Marlins. Some TC barrels are build wrong, that's just the way of life.
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« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2006, 01:53:53 PM »
machinist,  be very careful, you sound like you have contracted Tcbarrelitis, you will go in debt, and pawn everything you have, even your kids :-D , watch out or all you will have is barrels, no furniture or tv, but hey who needs it. Seriously, have fun and welcome to the club, good hunting
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« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2006, 12:54:03 PM »
I know what you mean.  I'm always having that same problem, some Contender bbl. is always following me home, too.  They ain't so expensive but then you gots to keep feedin' the darn things!  I've got one too many 10 in. .223 bbls. right now.  Do you suppose anyone would want a real good shooter?  It groups all day into a half-inch.  Since knee surgery I have to use my 14 inchers when in the Creedmoor position 'cuz my durn leg don't bend like it used to and I don't want any more bullet holes in it than it has already had.  Oh, by the way, the hole it did have wasn't put there by me.  It was put there by someone who was shooting at me.  That varmint isn't around anymore.
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« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2006, 01:57:33 PM »
I want one.OH BOY IT IS STARTING!!!
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