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Offline Raven

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Encore Repairs
« on: March 18, 2003, 06:02:05 AM »
The following is an update on my encore for those that may have similar problems, or experience them in the future.  As I had indicated on another post, my newly acquired encore rifle with 308 and 223 barrels did not produce satisfactory performance. :cry:   I sent the frame and barrels back to TC for evaluation.  I recieved them back from the repair center within two weeks.  This was half of the 30 day turnaround that they quoted when I sent it in. :grin:  The 223 barrel was declared defective and replaced.  The 308 barrel and frame were said by the technician to be modified in some way, although he could not remeber what he did to it.  Previously, I could not get either barrel to group.  Group sizes ranged from 2.5 inches to over 9 inches, averaging about 4.5 inches for both barrels, utilizing a variety of factory premium ammo.  

I was able to get to the range and had just enough time to ring out the 223 barrel.  I tried 5 different types of ammo ranging from 40 to 55 grains.  I had time to fire 7 groups.  The groups ranged in size from as little as .3" for the best performing ammo to 1.4" for the worst.  The average for the 7 groups was 1.05".  Obviously, this was a huge improvement over the first barrel. :grin:

I have not had a chance to try the 308 barrel, however, my hopes are not as high for it.  :?  It has no chamfer where the muzzel exits the end of the barrel and the edges of the rifling appear very rough at this point.  The new 223 barrel appears to have a 45 degree chamfer at the muzzel which looks a lot cleaner and more uniform.  If the 308 will still not group, it may need to be recrowned, however, I just need to take it to the range and try it.  Hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised as I was with the new 223 barrel.

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Same Problem
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2003, 04:57:18 PM »
I had the same problem with a 300 win. mag. barrel from t/c. I sent it back a total of three times on the third go around I requested a new barrel and they sent me a new barrel. Before the first time I sent it back and it wasn't producing any good groups I had the headspace checked and according to my gunsmith the headspace was to much well in the letter that was with the barrel I told them (t/c) this and they said that it wasn't enough headspace to I guess they gave it more well when I got it back I took it to the range and it still wouldn't shoot a group worth a darn so I sent it back again, this time they told me that it need recrowned and I guess they did it and said that it was shooting 1 inch groups @ 100 yds. WRONG! So the third time I told them to send me a new barrel, a 7mm barrel and they did, I am not quite sure how accurate this barrel is because I sold it to a friend of mine and ordered me a barrel from Bullberry. I have a Encore .45 caliber muzzleloader that I am having accuracy problems with that I am fixing to send back for a new one. :x

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308 Barrel update
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2003, 09:53:58 AM »
Finally got a chance to test the 308 barrel.  It did not shoot well after its trip back to TC.  I took it to a gun smith who chamfer cut and hand lapped the muzzel.  This made a big difference.  It went from paper plate sized patterns to 1" three shot groups with plain old remington core lokt 150 gr. ammo.  :grin:  While this is no tack driver, 1" is certainly acceptable accuracy for me.

It only took the smith less than 30 minutes and I watched him do the work.  It was a very simple process.  The tools are available from Brownells, and if I ever end up with another barrel with this problem, I will likely buy the tools and do it myself.  All he used was a 45 Degree chamfer cutter and a brass lap.  Once the chamfer was cut with the cutting tool, the brass lap was used with some 600 grit abraisive compound to give it a fine polish.