Author Topic: 30 cal sabots  (Read 403 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline buffermop

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 946
30 cal sabots
« on: March 14, 2006, 06:29:59 PM »
Has anyone ever loaded a 22cal bullet in a 30 caliber sabot? I was just wondering if it is practical for varmint hunting with an "06".

Offline PaulS

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1120
30 cal sabots
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2006, 07:24:48 PM »
The "Accelerator" rounds came out a long time ago. Most of the shooters I know tried them and were as unhappy with them as I was. They produce groups like a shotgun - not like a rifle. Sabot rounds have very special requirements to be accurate. Those who own rifles with short, tight throats and slow rates of twist might be able to shoot sabot rounds but until the technology of sabots and the bullets they use catches up with the desire to shoot a very light weight sub-caliber bullet at hyper-sonic velocities I'll just stick to shooting the bullets that the rifle was designed to shoot at the velocities that actually meet the criteria of my uses.
PaulS

Hodgdon, Lyman, Speer, Sierra, Hornady = reliable resources
so and so's pages on the internet = not reliable resources
Alway check loads you find on the internet against manuals.
NEVER exceed maximum listed loads.

Offline ricciardelli

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1004
  • Gender: Male
    • http://stevespages.com/page8.htm
30 cal sabots
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2006, 07:34:25 PM »
Ain't worth a damn,

Offline warf73

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 533
30 cal sabots
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2006, 09:13:41 PM »
Quote from: ricciardelli
Ain't worth a damn,


What he said.

Send me a PM with your adress and I'll send you an envelop with about 20 or so in it. You can give it a try.

Warf
"Life isn't like a box of chocolates...It's more like
a jar of jalapenos.  What you do today, might burn
your ass tomorrow."

Offline Questor

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7075
30 cal sabots
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2006, 01:28:34 AM »
Why do they continue to exist if they're so bad? I've only heard and read bad things about them. Are they still available as factory ammo?
Safety first

Offline jhalcott

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1869
30 cal sabots
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2006, 04:59:51 AM »
They exist for the same reason black powder does. People spend MONEY on them! A few rifles will shoot them into the same group sizes that can be shot with regular bullets .Very few can reach the accuracy needed for serious long range varminting(sub MOA). I found it more satisfing to shoot ground hogs with 150 grain 30-06 bullets then shoot AT them with a 55 grain saboted 22 slug!

Offline ButlerFord45

  • Moderators
  • Trade Count: (10)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1992
  • Gender: Male
30 cal sabots
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2006, 05:11:53 AM »
Quote from: jhalcott
They exist for the same reason black powder does.


 :evil:

I believe there may be some small differences.
Butler Ford
He who does not punish evil, commands it to be done.-Leonardo da Vinci
An armed society is a polite society-Robert A. Heinlein
Only the dead have seen the end of war- Plato
Lord, make my words as sweet as honey
tomorrow I may have to eat them- A lady's sweatshirt

Offline Reed1911

  • GBO Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (18)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1332
    • www.reedsammo.com
30 cal sabots
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2006, 12:52:56 PM »
Can someone make me a "smilie" that will dope slap?

Since I can't make one my self and until one gets there


 :D >>>>>> :twisted:  to you there jhalcott,
Ron Reed
Reed's Ammunition & Research
info@reedsammo.com
www.reedsammo.com

Offline jhalcott

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1869
30 cal sabots
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2006, 08:45:26 AM »
????? Is That a compliment or not Reed? In one 30-30 the saboted slugs were WILDLY inaccurate,in another they would group 5 shots in 8 to 10 inches at 100 yards. Several 30-06 rifles and also a MATCH grade 308 could hit a 2 liter soda bottle at 200 yards.Those same bullets loaded in22 cf rifles generally went an inch or less 5 shots@ 100 yards. I've found cast bullets to be more accurate AND more usefull at the PRACTICAL rages of the saboted things  Just MY experience! HEY ! I'm the guy who is ALWAYS trying to reinvent the wheel.

Offline Glanceblamm

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2814
30 cal sabots
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2006, 02:19:13 AM »
Jhalcott Wrote:
Quote
They exist for the same reason black powder does.

 :evil:
I believe there may be some large differences but I do use sidelocks with patched balls.

Now..back to them Say-Bo's....I have had them shoot very well in the .30-30 but poorly in the 06.