Author Topic: Self defense drills  (Read 975 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Nuttinbutchunks

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 443
Self defense drills
« on: September 21, 2005, 05:08:45 PM »
I started shooting defensive combat instead of target practice. So far all I do is draw from my waist band and double tap some rounds at something like a two litre coke bottle. Does anybody have a favorite drill for a rookie?
Ohhhh, I hate when that happens :eek:

Offline Dusty Miller

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2271
  • Gender: Male
Self defense drills
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2005, 09:20:38 PM »
Practice moving laterly.
When seconds mean life or death, the police are only minutes away!

Offline Cottonwood

  • Trade Count: (5)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2780
  • Gender: Male
  • "Capturing the moment, to last a lifetime"
Self defense drills
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2005, 03:11:48 AM »
I have a indoor range that I can go to 24/7 if I so desire.  The pistol range has motorized target out, and return.  I run my B-27 Silhouette Full Size Blue 24" x 45" or undersized B-27 Silhouette 14" x 23" out then hit return so I can practice my double taps.

If you have an outdoor area, you can take a Target Stand and put a set of wheels on it, add rope and have some one pull it.  Have it on a pulley system and they can pull to have it running away from you etc.

I don't use round bullseye targets to practice with.

Offline redial

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 260
Self defense drills
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2005, 04:00:14 AM »
Brown paper grocery bags make cheap, useful IPSC practice targets. No scoring rings to distract you or aiming points. Ken Hackathorn published somewhere a 50-shot practice session that covers most of the usual exercises. I'm sure it's on the net some'eres.

For movers, I've rigged up targets on a dog run cable. A target on an old tire rolled across the range is challenging too.

Redial

Offline Nuttinbutchunks

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 443
Self defense drills
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2005, 04:26:33 PM »
Hmmm.. all very interesting.
Ohhhh, I hate when that happens :eek:

Offline spotteddog

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 30
Self defense drills
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2005, 02:35:41 AM »
Brown paper bags !
I didnt think they still made them. If cut them right, they make a great cheap silhouette. The problem is, in my area you just cant find a store that has them anymore


spotteddog
spotteddog

Offline Cottonwood

  • Trade Count: (5)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2780
  • Gender: Male
  • "Capturing the moment, to last a lifetime"
Self defense drills
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2005, 02:59:01 AM »
Quote from: spotteddog
Brown paper bags !
I didnt think they still made them. If cut them right, they make a great cheap silhouette. The problem is, in my area you just cant find a store that has them anymore - spotteddog


Check with the guy working the Dairy Products at you local grocery store.  The bottoms of the yogert flats make great center mass target areas.  I use these sometime since my son works in the Dairy Section  8)

Offline chevyfan1a4

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 17
Self defense drills
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2006, 07:17:36 PM »
I got a cd with various designs on it. I just print out my targets. But some times i use the Shoot-n-see targets.

Offline Mikey

  • GBO Supporter
  • Moderators
  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8734
Self defense drills
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2006, 02:43:11 AM »
Just about one of the most fun types of practice I have is with ballons.  Get smaller ones that inflate to only about 4" diameter and either hang them off a stand or let'm roll around on the ground, but do it on a breezy day and then see how you hit.  If you want to use liter/2 liter soda bottles, lay them on their side so only the butt end is to you.  

Given the smaller targets that may be moving you should be able to improve on your point shooting.  However, just as those targets will move so should you.  If you have to shoot at a bad guy who has a gun it is doubtful he will be standing still.  Often they are on the move just rappin' off rounds at you - most often those shots do not connect but there is always the lucky one and there is always the possibility of one of those shots hitting an innocent person so you will need to be able to connect with your shots quickly.  

Practice shooting, and then practice shooting and moving.  Get some videos that will help.  HTH.  Mikey.

Offline NYH1

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1695
  • Gender: Male
Self defense drills
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2006, 06:45:41 AM »
Quote from: Mikey
Just about one of the most fun types of practice I have is with ballons.  Get smaller ones that inflate to only about 4" diameter and either hang them off a stand or let'm roll around on the ground, but do it on a breezy day and then see how you hit.
If I use a shotgun is that cheating? :-D  :grin:  :)

Actually that's a good idea thanks, NYH! :grin:
"ROLL TIDE". . .Back To Back. . .Three In The Last Four Years "GO GIANTS"  "YANKEES"

Offline jimster

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2237
  • Gender: Male
Self defense drills
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2006, 10:49:13 AM »
In fair weather season I go to the outdoor range, in the middle of the week, there is rarely anyone there at this range, have the place to myself.

I then practice moving a lot, shooting from all different positions and from behind things, laying down, and sometimes I run fast for short sprints before engaging the targets. Also practice presentation from my carry holster a lot. If i'm going to carry, I'd better be smooth about presenting it if I have to.
Of course the reason I go to the range alone is because I don't want other people there when I practice this way, I need space so to speak, among other obvious reasons. (What the h*ll is he doing??) Although I know most all of you would understand I'm sure.
OH....if ya practice like this by yourself, be REAL safe while on the move with your weapon, and preenting it...there is no one there to take you to the hospital if your unsafe while playing combat by yourself.

I think the best drill is practicing drawing your weapon and firing it, and making your movements smooth and safe.
Plinking with a few hundred rounds is great for trigger control and good practice all around.
50 rounds of intense concentration presenting your weapon and shooting from odd positions could save your life in a pinch.

Offline rockbilly

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3367
Self defense drills
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2006, 05:53:39 PM »
:D Work or your night and low light accuracy.  According to the "experts" most of the situations where you will need you firearm occur at night.

Expert= ex=a has been, spirt= a drip under pressure........... :wink:

Offline papajohn428

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 755
Self defense drills
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2006, 05:51:09 PM »
Shooting on the move, and weak hand practice are two things I do every time on the pin range.  You have no idea how hard it is until you try it.  Try both at once and you'll see how hard it is!  Shooting from prone (On your front AND your back) is also a good idea, but I only do that when I'm alone at the range.  Some folks think it's weird.  

One of the things I learned as a PD instructor is that when being shot at, you tend to focus on the gun, and your shots go there, instinctively.  Bad guys do the same thing.  The odds of you getting hit in the gun arm/hand are pretty good, if the bad guy is paying any attention to his sights.  Learning to shoot with the weak hand is a VERY good idea.  Might save your bacon, if the SHTF.  Better to have a visit to the hospital, than a one-way trip to the morgue.  The idea of having a gun is to survive the encounter.  Knowing the difference between cover and concealment is also a DARNED good idea!

Papajohn
If you can shoot home invaders, why can't you shoot Homeland Invaders?

Offline S.S.

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2840
Self defense drills
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2006, 09:25:26 AM »
The Cardboard boxes that a case of cokes comes in is a great target.
Most small stores will save them for you if you say "Please" and "Thanky"
I set them up at 7,15 and 25 yards. I am getting a bit long in the tooth
to be running much so if I feel the need to fight I am simply going to have to take cover and stand my ground until it is over (one way or another)
I do practice shooting weak and strong hand still because I have been in a situation to where I had to use my weak hand and I see a lot of merit there now. In my youth, I was fortunate to have been trained by some of the best defensive and offensive handgun shooters in the world, (Mosaad) So I know the tactics very well. Just a bit more difficult to put them to use
now than it was then. Practice, Practice, practice
Vir prudens non contra ventum mingit
"A wise man does not pee against the wind".

Offline corbanzo

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2405
Self defense drills
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2006, 03:11:47 PM »
We got the idea to set up some targets, made out of whatever, then have someone stand up and behind you, and shoot paintballs at it.  That way, you would have to react to a small movement as to where it hit, and have to not react to the sounds of the paintball gun, but the acutally target that it hit.
"At least with a gun that big, if you miss and hit the rocks in front of him it'll stone him to death..."

Offline darrell8937

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 471
Self defense drills
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2006, 06:53:43 PM »
One drill a friend of mine tought me. ( A former cop) was to squat slighlty with you gun in both hands , don't even think about aiming , drop you qrms and gun down.. fells strange at first.gun pointed slightly down, Put out a soda can about seven yards, use the first shot as a tracer at first. and shoot fast. I was amazed at how well this worked with just a little practice. I do this drill alot now.. mostly with the p22 (ammo cost.) It is so much fun and sastifing that you will do it a lot.. so ammo cost is important. But even with my 40 and 45 still score some good hits. A lot of fun. Would not want to be that soda can.