Author Topic: Summer of 2003 Encounter  (Read 1888 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Telahnay's g'son

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 374
Summer of 2003 Encounter
« on: April 08, 2006, 04:14:37 PM »
The following is the result of a collaboration between D.G. & myself concerning an event he experienced at one of our current locations of interest.

Being his system (ISP) is down for several days I have taken the liberty of posting the synopsis of his evening's experiences:

Summer of 2003 Encounter

I was taking some spoiled horse feed down to an area weÂ’d been working for almost two years. “Cutter” my Aussie shepherd dog was in the cab with me. It was the same location where IÂ’d previously (2 weeks earlier) dumped a hog carcass.  T.G. had driven in there the week before ~30 minutes before I arrived and ran into a wall of stench ~30 yards from where I had the FTF encounter about to be described.

Anyway, as I drove in (1 ton Ford Super duty 4WD flatbed) to the location proceeding along the edge and then through the midsection of an uncut Milo field at the turn I drove upon a BF* walking down the lane straight at me.  I stopped ~20 yards short of it.  It was ~6 feet in height (apparent juvenile) with ~1 inch length of very dark hair with a tinge of reddish in the ends from the glow of the evening sun.  It had a round head, flat nose, large eyes and facial skin appearance of mahogany wood.  It appeared to be as surprised as I was from its facial expression.  After a few seconds of mutual shock/surprise it turned and dove into the ~waist high Milo and proceeded north in quad (all fours) fashion at a rapid clip.

I drove on up to the high point in the middle of the field and off loaded the feed in a small patch of trees.  I sat in the truck and called T.G. to convey the event while it was still fresh in my mind.  While we were talking Cutter began to stir anxiously as several howls/hoots began to emanate from the nearby creek bottom and I suddenly noticed deer running through the Milo in a desperate fashion on both sides of the truck.  I mentioned this to T.G. whereupon he immediately told me I had stumbled right smack into the middle of a BF “hunt” and to get the heck out of there.

I fired the truck up and drove out of the bottom up on to the hilltop turning around and pulling just over itÂ’s crest facing back toward the bottom and turned the diesel off in order to listen for any activity below.  T.G. phoned me back about that time to make sure IÂ’d made it out OK and while we were talking the truck suddenly lurched forward slightly with the floor shifter bumping around as it was in gear.  I put the clutch in hit the key and drove down off the hill back into the bottom stopping in the first Milo field which was adjacent (across a small slough) to the original one.  Again, I turned the truck off to listen and about that time W.W. called (heÂ’d been alerted by T.G.) and we were discussing what had happened.  The phone reception was poor and our call was cut short due to static.  Then, Cutter began to growl and swivel his head in all directions as deer were running through the field like a bunch of scattered rabbits.  Hoots and howls also began on three sides of my location.  Again, I fired the rig up and drove out stopping this time over the crest of the hill where the blacktop started.  

I then called T.G. back and we were talking when Cutter alerted my gaze to ~30 yards to the front of the truck.  It was a crescent moon phase but there was enough ambient light to observe “something” (on all fours) glide across the roadway in a left to right direction.  It was the size of a heifer cow and when I conveyed this to T.G., we decided it was time to vacate the area, as this must have been the alpha male.  We later met a few miles away and proceeded back into the area but all activity had ceased by then.  This area continues to pique our interest.

In retrospect, it appears that I drove right into the middle of a deer drive/hunt and incurred the ire of the “hunters” in the process.  I will never forget that evening for as long as God grants me time on this planet.

* The term applied to a currently unidentifed (via modern forensic means) entity.
NRA Life Member
DU Corporate Sponsor
DW Sponsor

Offline Greybeard

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • A Real Regular
  • *****
  • Posts: 553
  • Gender: Male
    • Graybeard Outdoors
Summer of 2003 Encounter
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2006, 05:10:05 PM »
John or Dennis if you happen not to know John, when the truck moved at the top of the hill are we to take this that it did so of it's own volition or is he saying he thinks it was pushed?

Was this at Doug's place or another location?

Since a flat bed diesel truck of the sort described is kinda noisy even at the low speeds likely at the time how do you account for the creature not hearing it coming and being aware when you were so close?


Bill aka the Graybeard
President, Graybeard Outdoor Enterprises

Offline powderman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32823
  • Gender: Male
Summer of 2003 Encounter
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2006, 05:48:35 PM »
This is the first I've heard of a BF running on all fours. No treacks of any kind?? POWDERMAN.  :D  :D  :D  :D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

Offline Telahnay's g'son

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 374
Summer of 2003 Encounter
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2006, 05:51:06 PM »
G.B.,

Forgot to explain the truck was pushed ~3 feet as when we returned later that evening you could plainly see the skid marks of the dually rear wheels in the gravel roadway.  Also, there was an area ~2-3 feet across where the dust on the rear of the flatbed was gone where "something" had pressed against it.

This was NOT on BM's place but one of six (6) we're keeping tabs on these days.

We think they were so focused on the "hunt" plus where you enter this location first you travel down a section line gravel road and then turn onto the field road and backtrack (alongside the field) at a ~45 degree angle to the section road that the BF may have thought D.G. was actually continuing past them on the section road down into the bottom which continues to lose elevation for another ~1/3 mile.
NRA Life Member
DU Corporate Sponsor
DW Sponsor

Offline Telahnay's g'son

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 374
Summer of 2003 Encounter
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2006, 05:57:07 PM »
Quote from: powderman
This is the first I've heard of a BF running on all fours. No treacks of any kind?? POWDERMAN.  :D  :D  :D  :D


According to Dr. Henner Fahrenbach's body of work, this mode of locomotion is how they can attain speeds of ~42MPH for short distances.

We could not locate any castable tracks.
NRA Life Member
DU Corporate Sponsor
DW Sponsor

Offline Skeeterbaymac

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 172
Summer of 2003 Encounter
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2006, 06:14:11 PM »
I guess why I have trouble understanding these sightings is because I just do not understand something.  

  I grew up in the woods and I have lived and traveled in some real remote areas.  I spend a lot, I mean a lot of time in the woods.  I have baited bears in Alaska and Maine and in some of the most remote areas you can imagine. With some of the most nasty meat and other stuff you can imagine.  Yet I have never ever seen anything I could even remotely discribe as Big Foot. Let alone more than one hunting deer.

   I am not trying to be rude and I am not trying to dispute what you are saying.  But you would think with all the bear baiting I have done all these years, that if BF was living I would have had him visit one of my baits.  The last I don't know how many years we have been using timmers and cameras on baits.  Not once have I got a picture of anything I couldn't explain nor foot prints I couldn't ID.  I mean we are talking a lot of baits and we are talking a big woods.  I got pictures of Martin, Fishers, otters you name it but nothing I could not I.D.

  You guys got to be the luckest guys I ever heard of. Just do not understand why you all have such luck baiting big foot and seeing so many of them and all of the folks up here with thousands of baits (combined) on tens of thousands of acres of vast empty woods and we got no BF sightings.   I love Maine but I am about ready to relocate and see if I master BF baiting.   :grin:

  I wonder what would make these animals hang out in these areas so close to people.  Where the people are always in the woods or always coming upon them.  You would think they  would take off and look for less active (human wise) areas to live and hunt.  Anyway just my observation and me trying to understand my confussion. :?  Skeeter :D

Offline Telahnay's g'son

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 374
Summer of 2003 Encounter
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2006, 06:22:17 PM »
Skeeter,

Confusion reigns supreme with many in the realm of so-called BF research.  :wink:

BTW, we haven't had any success with getting photographic evidence using game cameras either.  The consensus is "whatever" these things are seem to have an enhanced ability to see in the IR spectrum and even the passive beam cameras apparently emit some sort of signal discernable to them.

Our experimentation with NV such as viewing one NV in operation (w/IR on) with another NV instrument as well as the IR beam on most game cameras is well...rather "illuminating" as the second NV picks up the first NV IR and it appears just like an incandescent light being shined.

We didn't set out looking for these things rather, they kinda "ran" into us and our interest in solving this mystery has been keen ever since.

take care,
T.G.
NRA Life Member
DU Corporate Sponsor
DW Sponsor

Offline Greybeard

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • A Real Regular
  • *****
  • Posts: 553
  • Gender: Male
    • Graybeard Outdoors
Summer of 2003 Encounter
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2006, 06:24:46 PM »
I think that is a part of the reason all us skeptics have such a hard time accepting bigfoot. It does seem to defy logic. Maybe we need to start taking White Eagle more seriously.  :eek:


Bill aka the Graybeard
President, Graybeard Outdoor Enterprises

Offline Skeeterbaymac

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 172
Summer of 2003 Encounter
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2006, 06:33:20 PM »
I would like to see one before I go!  In the daylight, not on the way to the camp outhouse and at a distance.  :lol:   I don't care about getting a picture, shooting it or even if someone is with me to verifiy it.  I just would like to see one, to no for sure.  If I did I guess I would be like the rest of you guys then and say hey I saw this and nothings going to change my mind about what I saw! :D

Offline Telahnay's g'son

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 374
Summer of 2003 Encounter
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2006, 06:36:45 PM »
Quote from: Skeeterbaymac
I would like to see one before I go!  In the daylight, not on the way to the camp outhouse and at a distance.  :lol:   I don't care about getting a picture, shooting it or even if someone is with me to verifiy it.  I just would like to see one, to no for sure.  If I did I guess I would be like the rest of you guys then and say hey I saw this and nothings going to change my mind about what I saw! :D


Many tribes of plains indians considered it a sign of good fortune to see one.

I've spoken with elders/members of both the Yuchi & Creek Nation's and was told it would be considered "bad medicine" to overtly kill one unless in self-defense.

Of course, the "injuns" only have ~15K years of experience in dealing with these dudes.  8)
NRA Life Member
DU Corporate Sponsor
DW Sponsor

Offline powderman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32823
  • Gender: Male
Summer of 2003 Encounter
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2006, 05:42:28 PM »
If they were indeed hunting deer that would mean they are meat eaters, I'd not heard that either. I'd sure like to have an experience like some of you. If they are  meateaters that would put a whole new perspective on things. POWDERMAN.  :?  :?  :?  :?  :?  :?
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

Offline Teufelwald

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 89
  • Gender: Male
Summer of 2003 Encounter
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2006, 05:10:17 AM »
Why didnt DG shoot it...I thought that was the plan? :sniper:

Offline Telahnay's g'son

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 374
Summer of 2003 Encounter
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2006, 05:15:50 AM »
Hard to do when the gun was still cased.  The FTF lasted a matter of seconds.
NRA Life Member
DU Corporate Sponsor
DW Sponsor

Offline Teufelwald

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 89
  • Gender: Male
Summer of 2003 Encounter
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2006, 05:34:30 AM »
When You and WW warned DG to get out of that lowland area...because you thought he was in the middle of a BF deer hunt...did You think DG was in danger of being attacked by these creatures?

Offline Telahnay's g'son

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 374
Summer of 2003 Encounter
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2006, 05:40:38 AM »
Yes, as he'd obviously gotten himself in the middle of a situation where the BF were actively hunting deer and we felt discretion was the better part of valor as it was just him amongst an unknown number of them.
NRA Life Member
DU Corporate Sponsor
DW Sponsor

Offline Teufelwald

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 89
  • Gender: Male
Summer of 2003 Encounter
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2006, 05:57:25 AM »
Quote from: Telahnay's g'son
Yes, as he'd obviously gotten himself in the middle of a situation where the BF were actively hunting deer and we felt discretion was the better part of valor as it was just him amongst an unknown number of them.


I agree.....Not wise to get between a preditor and its prey!

Offline Sasquatch

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 12
Summer of 2003 Encounter
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2006, 06:07:35 AM »
Hey T's son...that was an interesting story..you got any more encounters you want to share?

Offline Telahnay's g'son

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 374
Summer of 2003 Encounter
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2006, 06:20:13 AM »
There are several in the works...will have them out in a few days.
NRA Life Member
DU Corporate Sponsor
DW Sponsor

Offline Sasquatch

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 12
Summer of 2003 Encounter
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2006, 07:26:17 AM »
Thanks Bud...

Offline 1911crazy

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4793
  • Gender: Male
Summer of 2003 Encounter
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2006, 03:49:24 PM »
Its too bad it can't be filmed with a camcorder while there hunting from a top of a ridge out of the way with some sort of a zoom lens. I think you guys should start packin 50cal barrets for sure its time not to be playing around.

I have read many reports about a bigfoot hunting on all fours its lighting fast much faster than a horse.

And yes i was caught in the outhouse when i heard my very first scream along with my 44mag. its a situation i'd like to forget too.

Offline Savage .250

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1714
Summer of 2003 Encounter
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2006, 01:37:38 AM »
"............ into the middle of a BF hunt."
     Interesting.
" The best part of the hunt is not the harvest but in the experience."

Offline 1911crazy

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4793
  • Gender: Male
Summer of 2003 Encounter
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2006, 03:37:48 AM »
Didn't that woman down south who had her father who had a bigfeet family stay on there farm explained how they hunt on a TV show a while back that they run on all fours to tackle a deer.

There was a report on a bigfoot site about two brothers camping in northern CT who had an encounter with one and they were hiding behind a bush watching deer when a bigfoot ran up and snatched a small deer and killed it. The older brother took a stick and tried to get it to drop the deer but it snarled at him and walked away with it. I believe the brother was like 6' tall and the bigfoot towered over him too.  This was in a very large state forest thick wooded area thats still left in northwestern CT.  

It sounds to me that they get careless when there hunting and forget everything around them when there into the hunt.

It kind of makes me wonder how bad it really wants my viddles when it smells them?


BTW;  Good post keep them comming.

Offline 1911crazy

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4793
  • Gender: Male
Summer of 2003 Encounter
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2006, 03:40:18 AM »
Quote from: powderman
If they were indeed hunting deer that would mean they are meat eaters, I'd not heard that either. I'd sure like to have an experience like some of you. If they are  meateaters that would put a whole new perspective on things. POWDERMAN.  :?  :?  :?  :?  :?  :?


In the past there has been a lot of reports of them killing deer and hogs too.