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« on: April 23, 2006, 06:41:34 AM »
Got this from the Fairbanks Daily News Miner

6 North Pole students jailed

By AMANDA BOHMAN, Staff Writer

NORTH POLE--Police arrested six seventh-graders Saturday on suspicion they hatched a detailed plot to take guns and knives into North Pole Middle School to kill students and staff last week.

The boys each face a charge of first-degree conspiracy to commit murder, a felony. Authorities did not release their names or ages.

"To what extent they could have executed the plan is anyone's guess," North Pole Mayor Jeff Jacobson said during a news conference Saturday at City Hall. Jacobson also teaches at the middle school.

North Pole Police Chief Paul Lindhag described elements of the plot:

The students planned to disable the school's telephone and power systems and set an allotted amount of time to kill their victims. Lindhag said the students planned an escape route from the school and from North Pole, a town of 1,600 people 13 miles south of Fairbanks on the Richardson Highway.

The boys intended to carry out the violence April 17 but pushed the plan back a day, according to police. Their motives included revenge for being picked on by other students as well as their dislike of staff members and students.

Officers from multiple law enforcement agencies served several search warrants in the course of the investigation, Lindhag said. He declined to discuss what evidence was gathered.

Lindhag would not comment on whether authorities found a hit list, which has been an element of the investigation and the focus of widespread rumors since police started the probe April 17.

A student who told a parent about the alleged plot prompted the call to police. Fifteen students were subsequently suspended for suspected involvement or knowledge of the plot. The school principal alerted parents of the situation in a letter sent home and posted on the school's Web site. Dogs swept the school Thursday to make sure it was clear of weapons. Some parents kept their children home from school.

Sixth- through eighth-graders attend the middle school, which has an enrollment of about 500 students and is located on 8th Avenue a few blocks from the community's main road.

The students who were suspended but not arrested will remain suspended as the police investigation continues, school principal Ernie Manzie said.

Shock, horror and sadness were among the reactions of Manzie and other officials, who said they were also relieved there was no violence. The school district has never faced a threat of violence this severe in its history.

"I'm as surprised as anyone," Lindhag said. "You don't want to think this will happen in your own hometown."

Manzie said he was saddened because the actions of the six suspects will cast a shadow on the school.

"There are so many good kids at North Pole Middle School and so many families who are supportive," he said.

A police presence that began at the school last week will continue through the end of the school year, Manzie said. The school has brought in an additional safety monitor and increased monitoring in common areas before and after school and in the cafeteria.

"We have quite a few safety measures in place already at other schools. Those will continue to be in place," said Lynda Sather, spokeswoman for the Fairbanks North Star Borough School District.

Charges against the six suspects were not filed by the time arraignments began Saturday and a clerk at the Rabinowitz Courthouse said she did not expect the youths to be arraigned until today.

They were taken to the Fairbanks Youth Facility, authorities said. State law allows for suspects older than 13 to be tried as adults after a waiver hearing, which determines whether a child has a possibility of rehabilitation.

Lindhag said police found no connection between the suspected plot and tragedies such as the Columbine High School killings, which happened April 20, 1999, when two students killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 24 others before killing themselves.

Vicki Kennon has a daughter in seventh grade at North Pole Middle School and belongs to the Parent Teacher Student Association.

"They did a good job. They acted very quickly," she said of the school district.

Like most parents, Kennon did not keep her daughter home from school but she did talk about the situation with her child.

"Trying to explain why is the toughest part," Kennon said. "In such a small community as North Pole, you don't want to think that things like this can happen."

Judith Kleinfeld, a University of Alaska Fairbanks professor of psychology, is studying the problems of boys and launched The Boys Project, an effort to determine why young men are increasingly less likely to be valedictorians, on the honor roll or active in organizations like student government.

Kleinfeld wondered about the background of the children accused of hatching the plot. Youth implicated in plots of violence at school typically came from caring families, she said.

Manzie declined to release personal information about the boys, citing school district confidentiality policies.

"It's hard to believe we have a Columbine situation here," Kleinfeld said.

Mike Hopper, who counsels boys at the Fairbanks Youth Facility, said he thinks young people in today's society are over-stimulated by sex and violence in the media.

"We all live in this great big media age, but it will be another 20 years before we know what it does to growing minds," Hopper said. "There is a definite kind of contagion when it comes to self-destructive behavior. I've seen it a million times."

Reporter Amanda Bohman can be reached at abohman@newsminer.com or 459-7544

We are so far removed from the Lower 48 that we kind of felt immune from this here in the land of Santa Clause.
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2006, 08:25:08 AM »
Talk about stupid!  There is only one highway running through North Pole.  It's 18 miles North into Fairbanks, and 80 miles South to Delta.  North Pole just isn't big enough to hid in.  And as the old saying goes "You can't outrun Motorola".  That's why crime has been so low here.  If you steal a car, where are you going to take it?
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2006, 02:28:00 AM »
"We are so far removed from the lower 48 that we kind of felt immune from this here in the land of Santa Clause"

I would have thought so as well. I guess no place is immune. Not even America's last wilderness.  

The degredation of our society and the collapse of morals and character has become a frequent topic between my wife and I.  Our children are married and have begun raising their own families.  We feel fortunate to have raised our children when we did.  But now are concerned for the future of our grandchildren.  

We question whether our children will be able to raise their children with similar beliefs.

The future does look scary.  

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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2006, 08:28:25 AM »
Klebold and Harris (I think I got that right) had no intentions of escape. Get in, do what needed doing and end it for themselves on their terms.

No way of knowing yet what the youths in the North Pole case had planned.

Is it too late to pray?

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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2006, 01:27:47 AM »
It will get worse, well, all over.
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2006, 05:27:36 AM »
Talked to a group of high school students last night at the gym.  Two of the fellows I talked to were Freshmen, and had gone to the middle school last year.  They knew the students that had been arrested.  Asked about what was happening at the middle school, about the bullying?  Response from all the fellows were, "They brought it on themselves, they're DRUIDS".  "They are not being bullied, they are being shunned".  "They are wierd, no one wants to be around them".  "They are sick, they need help".  These are the comments I got from students about the ones that were arrested.
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2006, 05:53:10 AM »
DRUIDS?  Huh?

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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2006, 10:31:36 AM »
Druids are like a cult.  They wear all Black.  Metal studs and chains hanging allover their clothes.  They sometimes dye their hair black, wear black lip stick and mascara (boys and girls).  The black studded collers, and black finger nails also.  The rest of the kids in school avoid these kids and do not want to be associated with them.  Due to this issolation, the DRUIDS get an attitude.  At this point they are usually ostercised from the rest of the kids at the school.
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2006, 12:43:05 AM »
It would be interesting to hear the comments from several DRUID's about why they feel they shouldn't be shuned by their peers.  

One of mine and my wifes concerns about modern schools is that the students are not being taught that there must be a limit in what is socially acceptable behavior.  In the current world of "Political Correctness" it seems that educators, whether they personally want to or not, have to create an atmosphere that everything is acceptable, criminal and/or civil rights vioations excluded.

It would appear that the student body of that school has established, whether intentionally or un-intentionally, a boundary line of what they are willing to accept as acceptable behavior.  Seems the DRUID's have crossed that line.  

Does the remaining student body inflict violence against the DRUID's or are they just ignoring them and letting them be?

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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2006, 04:06:48 AM »
First of all you have to realise that the kids I associate with are members of the Hockey, Basketball, and Track teams.  I don't want to use the term Jocks, because there are girls in this group also on the Basketball and track team.  These athletic kids have a lot of self discipline, and a strong sense of belonging.  

Then there are the Druids.  At first the kids at the school tried to ignore the ones that dressed differantly.  Then as the dress became more radical, more space grew between the student body and the ones dressing in a differant manner.  As the shunning grew more obvious the Druid kids felt the issolation and started becoming beligerant toward the student body.  According to the kids things grew from there.  I have herd reports that the Druid kids would walk three and four abreast down the hall and anyone in their way would be shoved aside.  

Actually I am glad that this came to a head while these kids are in middle school.  Imagine what would have happened if that behavior had taken place in the high school and they came across the hockey or football players and started shoving them around.  The three Druid kids I have met, two are from single parent families, and they live with Mom.  The third, lives with her Mom and Stepfather.  Is there a connection here?  Some will say yes, but I am not sure since I also know two members of the Hockey team that are from single parent families also.  Both of these young men are clean cut, well dressed, and very well behaved and polite.  In fact I am often impressed with the respect I recieve from these young people.  So while the single parent family is not the cause, it may be a contributing factor.  I'm not a phycologist, I can't say what is going on here, but I can say we definately have a problem.
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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2006, 03:18:19 PM »
I couldn't agree with you more on all points.  

Students taking part in sporting activities certainly does promote discipline, team work and a sense of belonging.  The same is true for other group type activities such as Scouting.  Good adult leadership is a must.

Your comments about the Druids behavior pretty much confirmed my suspicion.  

I guess the best we can do is try to keep striving to be a positive influence on those young people we come incontact with.  It appears as though your off to a good start.

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