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Offline Nixter

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« on: March 21, 2006, 06:38:02 AM »
Howdy all.

Quick question, is it legal to use a rifle, rimfire or centerfire, for hunting crows in Wisconsin?

I see it is legal in other states but I honestly don't re-call the laws for WI.

I could try and and find my book of regs that I get from Gander every year but I thought this might be something to talk about.

And while we're on the topic, what about pigeons? Rifle legal?

Anybody do this if legal?

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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2006, 02:53:00 PM »
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Page 14 and page 20 cover your questions about crows

http://dnr.wisconsin.gov/org/land/wildlife/regs/SGHunt05.pdf

I have never hunted them myself, but have friends who say they are good eating, breasted out.
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2006, 06:07:26 AM »
379, thanks for your response.

Problem is my 'puter is acting up and I can't access PDF files.

Is the the link pointing to  info found in my Hunting rules and regs I get from Gander when I buy my licenses? If it is, I'll just go and dig it out from the truck, I'm sure it's in there somewhere.

If it's something else would you be so kind as to paraphrase the info for me? I know crow season closed on Monday and I have a few months to get the info I need but if I run true to form I'll either forget or put off getting the info until the last minute.

Thanks for your time.


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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2006, 06:34:40 AM »
Yep, the link I gave is exactly the same info that is in the regulation book that you have in your truck. I dont have a reg book here with me now, so I cant't tell you what pages to look at, but it's gotta be in the small game section. Oh, it is likely that the page #'s from the pdf file jive with the actuall reg book. Shouldnt be too hard to find it

g'luck
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2006, 07:26:47 AM »
Thanks 379, time to clean the truck anyways.

Who knows what I'll find back there.

I did find some 17Hmr ammo I had been wanting to test and I know there is bug dope back there...

Thank you for your time.


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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2006, 08:14:49 AM »
I pulled it up...on page 21 they list a crow as a game bird...and on page 13 they say its illegal to kill a game bird with a rifle...
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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2006, 10:44:07 AM »
Due to a really stupidly worded treaty with Mexico most states outside of the south have some real serious restrictions on how and when you can hunt crows.

The treaty was really intended to protect a relatively rare magpie that lives mostly in Mexico but some times crosses the border into the US. But rather than word it to protect just the target bird they used the species name that covers all crows, magpies, rooks and ravens. As a result you can only take crows during some very limited seasons and not within the breeding season in states unless they go to the extra trouble to declare them pests or nuisance birds.

There is a caveat in the treaty allowing you to shoot them any time they are damaging crops or about to. What Alabama did was declare that any and all crows you see are either in the process of damaging crops or about to. So we have a 365 day season and no real restrictions on how we can take them.
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2006, 12:04:09 AM »
WI used to have that if they are doing damage clause not sure if that is the case anymore or not but I think it may be. Not sure since they put a season on them. I know lots of guys if they get a chance with a rifle that crow is dead law or no law season or no season. Too bad you legally cannot shoot them with a rifle in WI as we do not have that many predator opportunities anyway.
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2006, 08:04:30 AM »
Thank you for all the replies.

Graybeard mentioned a treaty, Migratory Bird Act of 1972 is what he is refering to. I doubt any of the crows here in Wisconsin ever migrate to Mexico but what do I know I'm just a truck driver.

flintlock mentioned finding info on two different pages regarding hunting crows. Why not put all the info for a species on one page or on a table for easy reference?

I see an "X" that I have an opprtunity to shoot. Can I shoot it or not with the weapon I have in the area I am at this time and still be legal? I might not be an educated man but some of the regs and such take quite a bit studying to remain inside the law. I understand it is my duty as a licensed and ethical hunter to know the laws and regulations involving my hunt but there comes a point... Perhaps I should write the DNR :roll:  and suggest a revision of the regs? Or maybe a cheat sheet of sorts.

Cheat sheet could contain animal, weapon type, area, time period and permit required.

Am I a lazy whiner?
Or do I have a valid point?


Nixter

PS, thanks again for the replies.
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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2006, 09:39:54 AM »
:D I doubt if anyone knows all the regulations or different interpretations of them (including DNR). I just try to be legal. When in doubt in WI it's probably not legal. Crow hunting is good fun. Remember you have to utilize the dead crows.
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« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2006, 05:57:53 AM »
Quote from: freddogs
. Remember you have to utilize the dead crows.


Yep food for other crows  :)
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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2006, 08:26:23 AM »
Can utilization of a dead crow be as a deke for bringing more crows? Or should the use be more like fertilizer for my Mom's tomato plants? Maybe catfish bait? Sorry, I'm not gonna eat a crow. Seen them picking at some nasty stuff...

Just re-watched a video about crow hunting this past weekend, Bob Aronson, from Crowbusters.com. Not sure where he was hunting but we sure don't have the concentrations of crows here that they were shooting in the video. If I see 25 at a time, I am quite surprised.


Hope to get a few next season...

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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2006, 09:51:26 AM »
Seems not much is legal here in Wisconsin---at least in comparison to South Carolina (can't wait to get back!!!) One thing for sure, no crows killed in Wisconsin will migrate to Mexico!!! hehehe :lol:  Gene
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