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What is the most common caliber?
« on: January 21, 2006, 04:45:22 AM »
I have a debate going what is the most common caliber big bear hunters use or many the guides as well?? :D  When I say big 1000-1500+lbs brown bear.. State why your ansewr as well... Thanks :D
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What is the most common caliber?
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2006, 04:12:19 AM »
The 375 H&H for both hunters and guides is most commonly seen in this part of the world. The 338 Win Mag follows, at least for hunters, with various other 375s, 416s, and 300s being used. The 375 has a rep though and is the #1 rifle I've seen uncased by bear hunting folks.

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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2006, 07:53:48 AM »
.338 or .375 according to polls at the rifle range.
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45/70?
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2006, 08:29:55 AM »
How often do you see 45/70 being used?  

Is it as common as one might think or is it out of the question for most guides and knowledgeable big bear hunters?

I was always under the impression that is used quite extensively, maybe im wrong but with good loads it would be quite potent.

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What is the most common caliber?
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2006, 10:02:30 AM »
Until the advent of the WildWest modifications and hype the M1895 wasn't too common in Alaska - at least I seldom saw many even at the range.  Sure you'd see them once in awhile, but not common for hunting the big bears.  The availability of better bullets and the increased popularity of lever actions due to Cowboy Action shooting has breathed some more life into these rifles, but they will never become common.

Guides will normally use a very heavy rifle - .375 H&H and up - because the only time they need to shoot is after the hunter has wounded the animal.  They may have to break the animal down to keep from losing it, or to keep it off the hunter or himself.  When the .416s came out a lot of guides went to them as an upgrade from the .375H&H.  The ultimate guide rifle was usually considered to be the .458 Win.

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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2006, 04:55:02 AM »
Among the handful of folks who come here each year employing a guide, I have never seen or heard of a hunter showing up armed with a 45-70, this in spite of the fact that some do come armed with bows.

There seem to be two general classes of bear hunters; one which feels the cost of a bear hunt and wants to go home with a very nice or at least good representation of a brown bear. The other group includes those who have a certain goal in mind, the odds of scoring and the costs be damned. These latter hunters are, of course, fewer in number, but not rare. They are the ones who want only a 9 1/2 footer or bigger, want to arrow a bear or use some other handicapping method. The 45-70 may not be viewed as enough of a handicap by those who want he prestige of taking a bear with one and it may seem like too much of a handicap for those who just want to favor their odds of bringing home a bear - but that just me speculating.

As for guide use, I know some fellows carry a Guide Gun (450) as a backup to their regular backup rifle. A usual backup rifle is frequently chosen for its ability to make longer shots when necessary and the 45-70 does not fit the bill. OTOH, a 45-70 or 450 carried as a secondary backup can be a useful when shots might be measured in feet and one is crawling through the tangles.