hey mac, thanks for the info....I will have to get some of that powder, it is not one I have in stock....also plan to get an electronic scale....loading too many calibers now to keep resetting the manual powder measure al the time......and thanks for the heads up on the fusion ammo...have seen that it is shooting well in the handi rifles from other posts in/and on the forum(s) but had not heard anything ultra-comp specific.....I love the gun and it is beautiful but i have to admit the exceptional muzzle blast wasback take some getting used to!....still even though i am a lefty shooter, i can't resist the nef rifles.....had a 22-250 years ago and a .243 and now have a .280, .270, 30-30, and a 45-70.....will probably add a few spare barrels down the road and am tickled by the survivor rifles and the shakiris....I may have to get a part time job again, may have to moonlight to support the monkey on my back.....oh well.