Glock 19 reloading?

[captainkirk]

 Forgive me if this has been done to death... I know there are issues with reloading or should I say not reloading for the .40 glocks because of high pressure and unsupported chambers, but is this true of the 9mm versions as well?  Simply put, can you reload for 9mm Glocks?  

Thanks guys

captainkirk

[Graybeard]

Reloads are about all I've ever shot in mine really. Never had a problem yet. I use RP JHPs and Bullseye to pretty much duplicate the factory loads I carry in it. They shoot to same POI.

[captainkirk]

Thanks, sounds good to me.

captainkirk

[BloomGrad]

I'll post this info here as well as it might help somebody else too.

If you do load for your Glock all I can say is WATCH YOUR LOADS from the dies.  I have both a Glock 17 and 19 (my CCW gun).  I have a set of RCBS reloading dies.  I've had this otherwise reliable set for years.  The finished reloads that I get out of the dies are, most of the time, to large in diameter to fully chamber.  The result is the round is wedged into the barrel quite tight.  Brand of brass or overall trimmed length make no difference.

I found this problem early in life with the 19, my first Glock.  The round just not fully in the barrel and just out of battery so no abillity to fire or retract the slide.   To get it out of the barrel a solid soft brass rod had to be pressed down from the muzzle.  NOT THE SAFEST CURE but the only one at the range.  I popped out after the second wack.  I then tried the rest of the clip and on the fifth shot it happed again.  A nice day at the range ended there.  I inspected the rounds and they all fit within the min-max cartridge tool from Midway that I have on my bench.

The dies were readjusted again and loads were also tested in a Beretta M92F and a Browning HP.  Again the same fate when I shot the 19 and also with the 17 for the first time.

My investigation would lead me to believe that a combination of both a small Glock chamber design requirement and a VERY slight oversized die (but still within 9mm spec.) is the cause.  The rounds from the dies work in ALL my other 9mm's (Beretta, Browning, S&W along with others from the past ownership).

Research also lead me to believe this Glock chamber size is OEM and SOP in Europe with all of the funny pressured 9mm's they play with over there on that side of the ocean.  But I can't rule this same thing out with other Glocks

So a long story short is to check your loads for Glocks.

I no longer shoot reloads in the Glock 17 and 19.  Until I find a smaller base reloading dies set then I'm back in business!

[Savage]

BloomGrad,
This is not a new problem for us old reloaders. I have had this problem with tight chambered 1911s for years. One solution is to run the finished round thru the resizing die (With the depriming punch removed) as a final operation. Or, if you prefer easy----buy a Lee Factory Crimp Die. Adjust it per instructions, and run all your loaded rounds thru it. Problem solved! As an extra precaution, it's a good idea to chamber check any ammo that will be used for carry or in a match. I have had zero problems with oversize rounds for the last twenty years or so using this process. I use after market barrels in my Glocks and find the chamber dimensions to be tighter than the factory ones--------------go figure!
Savage

[BloomGrad]

Well my main reason to post was to make readers aware that I have had problems with the Glock 9mms.  You are right about the taper crimp die as a possible solutiton to the problem.  I thought my post my post was running long so I did leave out lots of stuff.  But the main thing i can add now is that yes I do have a crimp die.  It is the last step in all my loads.  I forget the brand.  I'm away or I'd go down and check, Lee or Midway for sure. But no go.  It did not fully cut down on the problem.

Yes some were helped but not all.  Total of about 30% better.  The gremlin makes the area just above the extractor groove, and I mean the top of the groove, excess in size.  If you look into the RCBS carbide sizer the carbide is not flush with the base.  The thickness of the shell holder, now touching the sizer, still leaves this gremlin area.  My other solution would be to have the shell holder turned down on a lathe an estimated 0.25mm to 0.75mm.  Unfortunately I have not tried this as I lack a lathe.     

Thanks for the old tip on running them through the sizer again and I'll give it a try.  I've read this tip before but in reality I've just gotten out of the habit of reloading for the G19.  There are to many good practice factory loads.

Plus.. Sometimes I think I'm just gettin' plain lazy.   

You are correct to check the rounds you intend to carry.  To truely practice for self defense you should do most of it with the rounds you intend to carry on the street.  I feel that leaves less chance of the unexpected.  PARABELLUM means "prepare for war".  I use that moto to justify the expense.  I refuse to allow myself to feel cheap in a real life defensive situation "when the manure hits the rotating oscillator" 

That might sound hard edged but CCW is not play acting.  Fights are lost between the ears.  If kicking back has to be done I want steel toe boots and let the other guy feel them.   

Thanks again for the tip and I really will give it another go.

 

[gary0529]

Tend to go along with Davage.
I have put in excess of 3000 reloads through the Glock 19 with nary a hiccup.
Usually use W 231 or Power Pistol but have used just about most everything else out there-Clays, Unique, Red and Blue Dot, never have had a problem. I too use a taper crimp die (Hornady) because it fits in nicely on the progressive press and kicks out nice, easily fed ammo.
Either I have been lucky with my 19 , ala chamber size being "standard" or the final crimping have done the trick.
In any case, just about all I shoot is full power reloads and it is what I carry in the magazine when I have the 19 as my CCW.