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Offline WylieKy

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Re: How could this have happened?
« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2006, 02:52:32 AM »
Now nabob, there you go being rational and thoughtful.  Rigidity is called for here.  We also must defer to quaint sayings from our venerable forefathers for the way out of this mess.  Surely there must be some ancient slogan, or apothegm that would point the right and legal way to lead us out of the wilderness.

By "quaint saying from or venerable forefathers" are you refering to the Constitution?

Lets sat that they monitor a call today that leads them to an International Terrorist Convention and the nuke it, killing every terrorist in the world.  Do you think that they are going to say "Job well done." and dismantle the program, or are they going to find someone else to listen to?  Speaking of being rational, let's look at the numbers I have posted.  The responce by the US government (all parties, in both retoric and actions) and the media far outweigh the danger to the citizens of the US.  The same as the Dumbocrat and media responce to US Soldiers death in Iraq is being inflated.  Both are tragic.  Both are the price of living in a "free" country.  I think that the systematic securing of our borders is a much more effecint method of preventing acts of terrorism in the US. I also think that if there is an individual or group the is suspicious , do good old fashioned research, get a warrant, and arrest their a$$es.  If found guilty they should get the needle, or better yet, the rope.

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Re: How could this have happened?
« Reply #31 on: August 26, 2006, 04:37:22 AM »
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No, I was referring to Ben Franklin's comment about giving up liberty for security.  And by no means is it a slam against Ben, or his comment; I just think that what we are dealing with today, cannot be answered with sayings--no matter how true they might be.
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Re: How could this have happened?
« Reply #32 on: August 26, 2006, 10:09:26 AM »
By what we're dealing with today, do you mean our goverments stepped up program of NATION BUILDING? :(
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Re: How could this have happened?
« Reply #33 on: August 26, 2006, 03:45:39 PM »

01/01/2001-12/31/2001- Deaths caused by terrorism in US -2,973 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11,_2001_attacks

01/01/2001-12/31/2001- Deaths caused by drunk driving-17,448 http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-driving-statistics-2001.html

01/01/2001-12/31/2001-Deaths by Murder-15980 (I assume this include 09/11) http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/01cius.htm


Dead is Dead.  Let's keep everything in perspective. Is terrorism frightening? Yes.  Is it worth selling our dearly bought liberty? No.


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OK, Wylie. Let's put it in perspective. Suppose that rather than hijacking those three aircraft, the terrorists had instead bought three light aircraft, put nukes aboard them, flown them  over Los Angeles, New York, and Chicago, and detonated them at optimum altitude? What would the resultant massive death toll do to your perspective?
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Re: How could this have happened?
« Reply #34 on: August 27, 2006, 04:25:49 AM »

01/01/2001-12/31/2001- Deaths caused by terrorism in US -2,973 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11,_2001_attacks

01/01/2001-12/31/2001- Deaths caused by drunk driving-17,448 http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-driving-statistics-2001.html

01/01/2001-12/31/2001-Deaths by Murder-15980 (I assume this include 09/11) http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/01cius.htm



Dead is Dead.  Let's keep everything in perspective. Is terrorism frightening? Yes.  Is it worth selling our dearly bought liberty? No.


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OK, Wylie. Let's put it in perspective. Suppose that rather than hijacking those three aircraft, the terrorists had instead bought three light aircraft, put nukes aboard them, flown them  over Los Angeles, New York, and Chicago, and detonated them at optimum altitude? What would the resultant massive death toll do to your perspective?

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