S.S., Guess you have already considered this: Two of my Turks had "dark" yet clean bores. They both are impressive shooters (considering the Tschitty Mauser sights) and show no pitting. Both have been arsenal refurbed and my guess is that the darkness is blue. When they reblued they dunked the bbl'd action with no bore plugs. But to add the the original post, the 38 Turks are one of the best buys out there. If you buy a good one with all the metal in good shape you can choose to leave it as is and shoot it with the el cheapo 8mm out there or do a modest sporter conversion. There are also 1890's and 1903 Models out there, but they are not as good a platform as the 38. Don