Anyone seen or know anything about a Savage/Stevens model 170 slide action 30-30

[demented]

  I had found one that I was interested in but for two reasons I passed on it.  It had perhaps 40% of the bluing gone and the guy wanted 400 bucks for it with a Tasco World class Chinese 3x9.  I do wish I could find one a little better priced, would seem to be a nice woods rifle

[jager]

I owned one in the early '70's and it was a decent rifle. It was built, as I remember, on a Savage model 30 shotgun action and had a rear bolt blocking action rather than a "rotating bolt" like the Remington 760's. Although it was not a real strong design, it was sufficient for the 30/30 pressure class of cartridges and was briefly offered in the .35Rem.  Mine would typically put 3 rounds into 1 3/4" at 100yards (on a good day) and reliably fed and extracted factory rounds from its "tube" magazine. I would consider $400 to be a bit high for the "specimen" you described, but might consider it if it was a .35Rem. Although Tasco scopes are not high on my "opinion poll", I've owned a couple of "World Class" that performed adequately on a couple of "utility" guns.

[Halwg]

My brother has a deluxe model at about 90% that he bought in 2009 for $250.  $400 is way too much money for a 170.  They are a lot more cheaply made than a 760 pump, but he bought it as a first gun for his son because of the safety and the way it operates, rather than start him with a Marlin 336.

[hillbill]

id have to agree that 400$ is way too much unless it is pristine and yu are a collector.they are nice guns, a buddy of mine had one he liked and ive handeled a few but i chose a savage 340 bolt gun when i wanted a non lever 30-30. it will handle pointed bullets where the pumps and levers wont.you used to see the pumps around here for about 150-200$. i have noticed that they have went up a lot lately tho.are they tapped for scope mounts? i cant remember.im thinking they were not.

[Dave in WV]

For $400 you can buy a Remington 760/7600 in really good shape with a scope (Bushnell/Tasco/Weaver) and get a better rifle. The Savage 170 is a good rifle but not worth $400.

[T.R.]

The 170 in 30-30 sold for $99.99 in 1973.  In contrast, Marlin's 336 sold for $129.99 which is a 30% differential.

Savage 170's in 35 Remington are quite rare and may become collectible a generation from now.   But the 30-30 version is not hard to find.

Current collectible pump actions include:   
  -  basket-weave checkered model 760 BDL in any cartridge except 30-06
  -  older models 14 and 141 in 35 Remington

TR

[TheCoachZed]

Mine's short, handy, accurate - but very stiff to cycle.  But, it only jams when I'm shooting at a deer or bear, though. 

[Daman]

The 170 in 30-30 sold for $99.99 in 1973.  In contrast, Marlin's 336 sold for $129.99 which is a 30% differential.

Savage 170's in 35 Remington are quite rare and may become collectible a generation from now.   But the 30-30 version is not hard to find.

Current collectible pump actions include:   
  -  basket-weave checkered model 760 BDL in any cartridge except 30-06
  -  older models 14 and 141 in 35 Remington

TR

I got one of the old 141's in 35 Rem and a Basketweave 760 in 270. They are not even in the same ball park as a Savage 170 - no offense to anyone, they're just not.

Daman

[T.R.]

Daman:

HANG ONTO YOUR REMINGTONS.  THE BDL BASKETWEAVE CHECKERING MODEL WITH CHEEKPIECE IS GETTING HARDER TO FIND.

141'S IN PRISTINE SHAPE ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND.  ITS COMMON TO FIND HEAVILY USED 141 RIFLES WITH RECENT RE-FINISHING.

TR

[Daman]

Daman:

HANG ONTO YOUR REMINGTONS.  THE BDL BASKETWEAVE CHECKERING MODEL WITH CHEEKPIECE IS GETTING HARDER TO FIND.

141'S IN PRISTINE SHAPE ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND.  ITS COMMON TO FIND HEAVILY USED 141 RIFLES WITH RECENT RE-FINISHING.

TR

My 141 is in terrible shape, but I love it! It is my truck gun. I also have one in 30 Remington that is decent and it is the only closet queen I own. The BDL gets the occasional box blind hunt, but it is a family heirloom so I take good care of it.

Daman

[T.R.]

Daman:

Have any trouble finding fresh 30 Remington ammo?  First Stop Gun Shop in Rapid City, SD has it on the shelf along with 25 Remington ammo.

I owned a 141 in 35 when I was stationed at Wurtsmouth AF Base, Michigan with USAF.  It was purchased in 1977 from a local Pawn Shop for $100. The air base is long closed but the Huron Nat'l Forest remains.  I shot a buck with that rifle every year that I was stationed there.  The animal(s) never traveled more than a few steps after that big 200 grain bullet struck the chest organs. One morning, I thought I missed a doe and shot again at a different doe an hour or so later.  But when I went downhill to dress it, I saw the white belly of first doe.  I dressed them both and returned to the Base.  Then I phoned my boss and explained what happened.  He made a few calls and located a licensed hunter in our Unit who agreed to tag the deer. My boss (Tech Sergeant) chewed me out and became quite animated & loud about it.  I thought he was going to slug me, but he didn't.  I learned my lesson - 35 hits harder than you think and one should check the area real well before assuming a miss. 

I sold the rifle for $125. including half box of shells when I rec'd orders for overseas. I hope this dandy rifle with excellent receiver sight is still hunting each Fall. It would be a shame if this rifle is doomed forever to a Collector's gun safe.

In summary, Remington builds excellent hunting rifles.  35 Remington hits a lot harder than mere paper charts would suggest.

TR

[Daman]

TR

No I don't. I have over 60 boxes of factory Remington and it very rarely sees use so I will probably never run out, but I have a set of dies for it and will just reload using 30-30 bullets if I ever do run out.

Daman

[Mannlicher]

I read an article in an old Gun Digest by Bob Bell, about the Savage pump rifle.  I was hooked, and looked for one for several years.

I wound up buying one from a guy on another forum.  I believe I paid $225 for it.  It came without a scope, but is now wearing a Pentax GameSeeker 1.75-5X 20mm tube.  This is a great scope, by the way.

Over the years, I have killed a doe, and several hogs with the rifle.  It shoots my handloaded .30-30 rounds with pretty fair accuracy, holding groups of two inches or less at 100 yards.
I had one problem with it jamming, but my gunsmith fixed that, replacing a small bent part in in the feed mechanism.

[grdad45]

I have one that belonged to my late Father-in-law. He bought it new in about 1972, and used it until he passed away in '78. I have let his Grandchildren and Great Grandchildren shoot and hunt with it, but it mostly stays in my safe. I loaded some 125 gr. bullets for the kids, and it grouped inside an inch- Remington 150 gr. ammo would spread to about 2-2 1/2". I will pass it on to my Grandson when he is old enough.
As to it's value look here:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=184703670

P.S.- Just for your info, scope bases for Rem. 742 ADL will fit it.

[spooked]

I bought a 170- 30-30 off of a friend a few years back, have never seen any other type of 30-30 that could be fired as fast as that thing...I had trouble loading the magazine with my Arthritis... Killed my deer with it that season...then went back to my lever action, ended up selling the 170 back to my friend..