Pulled out the books and the 357 Supermag (Max) maxes out at about 1450 fps from a 10" Contender according to Lyman. This means less from a 8" revolver. About 630 ft lbs at 120 yds. That is right on the edge of acceptable. The 445 Supermag maxes out at 1600 fps for 1270 fps and 860 ft lbs with a 240 gr bullet at 100 yds. Certainly different then the 7 B***m which went 2450 fps with a 120 Nosler. Both revolvers can shoot well and a deer is bigger then the IMHSA turkey at 100 yds. I will limit shots to 100 yds or less from a field rest then, since shooting at real game is way different then shooting steel