In my SxS 12 ga. I use the following load for dove and quail. 82gr ffg goex, over powder card, 1/2" lubed, cushion wad, 1 1/4 oz shot and over powder card. For me, this is a max load but it patterns well in my gun. Rule of thumb is equal parts powder and shot to get started. I do not exceed 1 1/4 oz shot. All shotguns being different in choke and barrel length, some experimentation with your gun will be necessary. Hope this helps you get started. I'm going on a big dove shoot with mine Oct. 8th and can't wait.