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243 Handi Reload/Accuracy
« on: November 04, 2006, 05:54:51 PM »
Purchased a Handi in 243 last weekend.  Have 110 rounds down the tube, as of today (50 shot today).

I purchased this rifle to shoot varmints, of the prairie dog variety.  I believe the throat is exceptionally long for 87 grain Hornady HP boat tails.  If I seat at/near the lands, I will have, approximately 0.100" of the bullet in the case mouth.

I started at recommended OAL, increasing 0.005" per set of five rounds (same primer, powder charge, & case).  Accuracy definitely started coming in....from a starting group 4.5" x 2", down to 1.25" at 100 yards.  These groups were shot with the rifle box stock.

The trigger pull was ok out of the box - 4.5 pounds, but is down to 2.5 as of tonight.  I floated the forend tonight as well.

243 load standard deviation varied from 3.05 (2.370 oal), 17.4 (2.360 oal), 16.7 (2.350 oal), 6.07 (2.330 oal), 7.02 (2.320 oal), 16.79 (2.310 oal), 11.01 (2.305 oal), 37.22 (2.300 oal - cold barrel)...all of these OAL's are measured with a Stoney Point gauge.  As the OAL got longer, the groups definitely started to shrink.

This is a nearly identical story on my 204 Handi as well. I do not believe I can even come close to the lands with bullets in this 204.  Standard deviation between 9 and 17 for my handloads.

Is everybody giving their Handi "the works" before the groups start shrinking?

Thoughts?

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Re: 243 Handi Reload/Accuracy
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2006, 04:53:42 AM »


Different guns...different results..but..working up loads is always recommended.Every now and then you will find a load that sits well off the lands and still gives exceptional accuracy.So..it isn't written in stone that the bullets have to be seated out to the lands...It can help on many loads though.I had a bull barrel 308 Survivor..and the only bullets that I could reach the lands with was a 200 grain MatchKing..This rifle would shoot 1/2" moa groups with Federal Classic 167 grain ammo..and even smaller groups with Winchesters 150 grain power points...both factory ammo..go figure..

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Re: 243 Handi Reload/Accuracy
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2006, 08:48:38 AM »
Got to agree with Mac,some of mine like bullets .010 off lands,and another likes them way off,guess thats part of the fun finding what they like.
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Re: 243 Handi Reload/Accuracy
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2006, 08:56:33 AM »
243.....................handi...............reload for accuracy............................don't get me started


you made a good pick enjoy
curiosity killed the cat , but i was lead suspect for a while

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Re: 243 Handi Reload/Accuracy
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2006, 10:37:23 AM »
Agree...with all three of you.

I wanted, hehe....this rifle to shoot 55-87 grain bullets, so I can keep the price of bullets down, to shoot prairie dogs with...at distance of course.

Time will tell.  I will put a few more rounds down the tube with these bullets and see how they do.

I am going to switch to a slower powder.  Have tried IMR3031 and H4895.  Will be going to some 4831 or 4831SC.


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Re: 243 Handi Reload/Accuracy
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2006, 07:22:10 PM »
243.....................handi...............reload for accuracy............................don't get me started


you made a good pick enjoy

Hey mitch..Go on and tell him how that ole bull barrel shoots... ;)

It's good to here from you again...

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Re: 243 Handi Reload/Accuracy
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2006, 12:56:51 PM »


It's good to here from you again...

Mac



ya its amazing how much time the army , drinking, clubing, and girls will take from you , you ever tried going to a range with a hang-over?


anyhow about the 243 my shoots great with both big (95gr ct's) and small (55gr ct's) i've gotten the 55's down to shooting in the .2's all the time and at about 4k it would be hell on a P-dog , its a bullet you should try .
curiosity killed the cat , but i was lead suspect for a while

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Re: 243 Handi Reload/Accuracy
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2006, 01:01:05 PM »
Mitchell - "ct's"  ?  Brand of bullet?


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Re: 243 Handi Reload/Accuracy
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2006, 01:42:04 PM »
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