Another hinge pin ?

[rebAL]

(Excuse the question, I'm just eager to learn all I can about my new Encore)  If you have a scope mounted to the barrel I don't see how a loose hinge pin could matter much with regard to POI. .  It does not seem to matter in the case of my Rem. 870 shotgun with cantilever scope mounted to barrel when I remove the barrel for cleaning.    Thanks

[Qtip]

I don't feel like re-typing my other posts so can scroll down to the "oversize hinge pin" thread and read them. Is your 870 cantilever barrel wobbly when it is mounted and the barrel nut is tightened? I'm not talking about removal and reinstalling the barrel. I'm talking about wobbling when it's mounted on the gun. Mine did. When it was locked up. When the gun is then fired vibrations start immediately and POI could easily change from the original sight picture. Scope/barrel being together could easily shift from frame even minutely and cause change of POI. Would you want the barrel on a bolt rifle to wobble? Same thing. Think about it.

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[Chuck White]

(Excuse the question, I'm just eager to learn all I can about my new Encore)  If you have a scope mounted to the barrel I don't see how a loose hinge pin could matter much with regard to POI. .  It does not seem to matter in the case of my Rem. 870 shotgun with cantilever scope mounted to barrel when I remove the barrel for cleaning.    Thanks

I see what you're getting at and I agree!
I believe my opinion is the same as yours, if the scope is on the barrel, it is obviously aligned with the bore (once it's sighted in) and this alignment does not change just because the barrel is removed and reinstalled!

If your impact is off when the barrel is reinstalled, it has to be relative to the harmonics and the torque of the forend screws!

[PA-Joe]

Yes, but your cheek is used as a reference point to align with the scope and your cheek may be lined up differently on the stock.

[Keith L]

I hear about people's trouble with scopes all the time.  With a scope having magnification there is a concern over paralax.  Cheek weld and alignment to the scope centerline needs to be the same each shot.  There is one range where the paralax is correct, usually 100 yards for a scope intened for centerfire, where one can be off and still hit.  With an adustable objective range can be set and that point moved for the range desired.  But in a hunting situation one can't always count on that pesky game to be at just the right range.  So once again practice is necessary to be able to mount the gun and have the same position on the scope each time.

Fit is important as well:  the better the fit the less adjustment the shooter has to do to get the same cheek weld.  That is my pet peeve with the shoot through rings.  If you can get low enough on them to use the iron sights your cheek will be off the stock when shooting through the scope.  I fit my stocks so that I am tight on the cheekbone and in the same spot each time.

I always wonder how many guns have been sold as inacurate when it is more like poorly fit.