I'm going to take my nef 10ga (THUNDER STICK) out duck hunting tommrow, going to try to wack a couple. I havent got any after market chokes for it yet going to use a factory browning IMP. it kills blue rock good with both remington 1 3/4oz #2's and fed. 1 1/2oz #2's fast steel. When goose season gets here I have some reloaded hevi shot 1 3/4oz 2's to smack them down with. I'll post my bag if I can do my part tommrow.