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Offline Horn

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Ballard Question
« on: October 23, 2006, 04:52:22 AM »
I have an Old Basket case Ballard that stood in the corner of Grandpa's shop for many years.

The bbl is marked    Kentucky                 Ball and Willams  Worster Mass   

Large Calliber (  I am guessing .45 or so)

no forearm,  stock bad not original,  no firing pin (rimfire)  several  not original screws  grinder marks on frame      bad springs I think.


Worth fixing up??
why Kentucky and   worster Mass on the same bbl??

who sells parts??

Value??

Thanks
      Mike
 

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Re: Ballard Question
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2006, 02:09:05 PM »
 What you have is a Ballard Kentucky model, made in Worchester, Mass. Thus the reason for both markings.
 Parts are nearly impossible to find, and unless you got lucky and ran across another fixer upper, I wouldn't waste much time trying.
 I sure wouldn't get rid of it, since it's a family heirloom, but I'd consider relegating it to a place above the fireplace.
 Ball and Williams was the first of many companies to build Ballard rifles. They built them from 1862 to mid 1865, and many saw use in the Civil War. Most Ball and Williams Ballards used a manually operated extractor, which was located in front of the receiver, under the barrel. Some had a unique automatic extractor that worked when opening the lever, and was very narrow, just catching the 6 o'clock positon of the cartridge.
 Some late Ball and Williams had the dual ignition system, which allowed use of rimfire ammo, or using empty rimfire cases with a hole punched in the center, they could be reloaded and fired with a percussion cap on a hidden nipple. The B&W guns were in many calibers from .38RF to .44RF, .54RF, and .56 Spencer. A few obscure calibers were also made.
 The screws wont be a problem, but the rest will be. Don't see enough of these for sale, and unfortunately with about 5-6 different makers, parts can be hit or miss when interchanging between makers. The only successful Ballard maker was John M Marlin. The others all went bankrupt making Ballards.
 Hope this helps.
 
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Re: Ballard Question
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2006, 02:41:21 PM »
Once again Thank You MM93.
 The lack of parts explains why it stood in the corner instead of being operational.   

 I think that I will be trying to find a good home for this one. 

as far as heirlooms  I have a bunch of Grandpas guns ranging from fairly rare and high quality to a couple of junkers that have no value to anyone except me. 


Thanks again
  Mike


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Re: Ballard Question
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2006, 03:01:11 PM »
Before you give up on the chase for parts check with these folks.

I have gotten a few things from them for various Ballards I have owned.   

http://www.ballardrifles.com/ballard_rifles.html

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Offline Sir Charles deMoutonBlack

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Re: Ballard Question
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2006, 03:14:05 PM »
This is a very early one, I think.  As the Civil War ramped up most Ballards went to war.  There are Ballard sites, I don't have the references at hand.  My reference is SINGLE SHOT RIFLES AND ACTIONS

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Re: Ballard Question
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2006, 06:18:50 PM »
 You can try Ballard Rifle Co. but they will most certainly not have parts for a pre-Marlin Ballard, as their repros are based on Marlin Ballards. They might take it on as a restoration project, but the cost might give you a huge case of sticker shock.
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