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Offline 444Dan

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Rifle barrels on old mid 70's shotgun receiver
« on: January 10, 2007, 08:43:29 AM »
OK, I know that it would be better to just buy a new handi with the SB2 receiver for shooting rifle cartridges, but is there any problem in shooting some of the low pressure rounds like the 22 hornet, 30-30 & 45-70 in the older receivers which were originally offered with the optional barrels ?   Has anyone fired alot of these rounds in the older receivers without problems, particularly in the firing pin hole area ?  Thanks.
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Re: Rifle barrels on old mid 70's shotgun receiver
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2007, 09:01:35 AM »
That question has been asked too many times, sure wll be glad when the search gets fixed. Here's a recent thread on the subject.

Tim

http://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/smf/index.php/topic,98052.msg1098250340.html#msg1098250340
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Re: Rifle barrels on old mid 70's shotgun receiver
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2007, 04:00:49 AM »
this brings up a question I have.  I have a 10 yr old .410 handi.  I would like to get another barrell to shoot something light such as a .17 hmr or .22 hornet or even .22 lr. 
would this be possible?    dangerous?
Has anyone done this?  What do you think Tim?

It's worthless to me now, grandma bought it for one of the kids.
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Re: Rifle barrels on old mid 70's shotgun receiver
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2007, 04:25:45 AM »
Quote from: prairiedog555 on January 11, 2007, 04:00:49 AM
this brings up a question I have.  I have a 10 yr old .410 handi.  I would like to get another barrell to shoot something light such as a .17 hmr or .22 hornet or even .22 lr. 
would this be possible?    dangerous?
Has anyone done this?  What do you think Tim?

It's worthless to me now, grandma bought it for one of the kids.

You cannot put a rimfire barrel on a shotgun or rifle action. As for the hornet it might be ok other people have done it.
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Re: Rifle barrels on old mid 70's shotgun receiver
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2007, 05:31:09 AM »
You CAN put a rimfire barrel on a shotgun or a rifle frame, and it may lock up and look very good......but that's all it will do!!! The firing pin will strike the center of the rimfire cartridge and do nothing since the priming is in the rim of all rimfire rounds, hence the name rimfire. ;)

FWIW, H&R NEF will be building 1000 3 barrel combo that will include rimfire barrels that work on the centerfire frame that comes with them, they already produce the Versa Pack which is a .410/22Lr combo, the rimfire bore is offset so the firing pin will strike the rim.

Tim

http://hr1871.com/Firearms/Combos/versaPack.aspx

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Re: Rifle barrels on old mid 70's shotgun receiver
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2007, 12:24:24 PM »
So, with this .410 handi I can do what?

Get another shotgun barrell  12ga. 3" (does factory have to do that?)
Get a blackpowder barrell
Get a .22 hornet barrell and hope it fits or up to what caliber would it be safe?
Have H&R put a .22 hornet or blackpowder barrell on it  (will they do that?)

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Re: Rifle barrels on old mid 70's shotgun receiver
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2007, 01:28:45 PM »
H&R NEF won't fit any barrel to any frame made before 1987.

Tim

http://hr1871.com/Support/accessoryProgram.aspx

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Additional barrels may be added to firearms of our manufacture since 1987 only, with a serial number that begins with N or H.
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Re: Rifle barrels on old mid 70's shotgun receiver
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2007, 02:38:12 PM »
The accessory barrel that I got for my 30-06, fits on the frame of an old early 70s era H&R Buckbuster 12ga slug gun.  The old slug gun has a fantastic trigger that lets go at around 2 1/2 lbs.  It has turned out to be alot better than the 06 frame.  No transfer bar so I can be real light and slow on the trigger, unlike with the 06 frame.
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Re: Rifle barrels on old mid 70's shotgun receiver
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2007, 02:48:33 PM »
This looks like as good of a place as any to put this.  From a thread on another forum.

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OK, It's back to square one.

I shot my Hornet today, that's on the old .357 receiver, and the primers almost extruded back to the hammer in the shotgun frame! I suppose the simplest thing to do would be to just swap the two barrels and make a 20" BC Hornet Carbine! source

On that page of the thread, I posted this picture of the Hornet brass.



The 5 cases on the right were fired in an SB1 receiver, the 3 cases on the left were the same load, same barrel, fired on an SB2 receiver.

Here's my conclusion.

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To assume one can get by with just any old receiver with these Handi rifles may be a big mistake!  ::)


I certainly won't ever put a .30-06 barrel on any shotgun receiver!  :o
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Re: Rifle barrels on old mid 70's shotgun receiver
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2007, 04:22:42 AM »
My .410 was bought about 5-6 yr ago.  but I guess it might be iffy, to try a .22 hornet barrell, don't want to get injured. 
If you guys counsel against it I would be stupid (er) to mess around.
I guess I should just get another Handi and use the .410 for a door stop.
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