Deputy: Thank you for the clarification. I wasn't aware that the 147 grain 9mms that took Matrix had penetrated the car door. The reviews I read didn't mention that and indicated that he was outside the vehicle when he took his three hits. This is where I felt the 147 grain 9mm had failed. I'll go back and read the reviews again - I think it was Ayoob's writeup on that shootout that led me to think this. However, unless the were +P loadings, which was also not mentioned as I recall, the subsonic 9mms in that bullet weight don't impress me much with their ability to stop a determined shooter. True, Matrix's biggest mistake was to take out his own partner with 'near to the ear' blasts from that Mini-14, but, poor tactics made it worse for the feds.
I've had to use the 9mm before but all that was available was 125 grain ball. We practiced the same tactics the SAS uses and found that in those situations the 9mm works. But that means 4 rounds per opponent, which is pretty effective and pretty immediate. I just felt that if CKs 92F (and he) like the 115 grain +Ps, he should stick with them as they are pretty effective. That is assuming of course that he is not using them the same way the 9s were used in Miami.
I think many individuals and many Police organizations learned a hard lesson from that incident. Tactics have changed, weapons have changed and training has changed. Hopefully this won't happen again or when it does we will be better prepared to manage the situation more effectively.
Thanks again for the clarification Deputy, I appreciate it. This be Mikey.
