6mm PPC

[nodlenor]

I have read about the 6mm PPC and how accurate it is and I was just wondering why it is not used more in varmint hunting. Anyone on here own one? I,m interested in trying one, so if anyone can give me some input on the pro's and/or con's I'd like to hear it.

[Hairtrigger]

I have 2 Ruger Rifles in factory chamberings.
The first is a NO.1 and the second is a M77VT. The bolt is scarry accurate.. I have another in 22PPC
They do make wonderful varmint calibers

[roper]

Brass is the problem and you have the 6BR with factory brass in a varmint rifle it's  just as accurate.

[coyotejoe]

I would speculate that people who are interested in a rifle strictly for varmint shooting would like a bit more speed in a 6 mm, such as the .243 or 6mm Remington and certainly, those interested in a combination deer/varmint rifle will want the full size rounds. The PPC  cartridges are special purpose rounds with not much across the board appeal.

[torpedoman]

This round rules the bench-rest world as of now.it should make a very good varmint round. If the boys there cant find a better round for accuracy it must be a good one

[Hairtrigger]

I use it for woodchucks, along with 221 Fireball 222, 223, 22-250, 225, 220 Swift.
There is no such thing as one perfect caliber!

[roper]

When  Sako made the 6/22ppc and you could buy Norma or Sako factory brass alot of varmint shooters used them.  The old Kimber/Cooper/Ruger also chambered rifles for the ppc and Dakota now is chambering rifles  since they own the rights now.

They have what is called a no neck turn chamber for the 22/6ppc so all you need to do is fireform Laupa brass and you have a pretty nice varmit rifle.  I still have some factory brass for my 6ppc varmit rifles another problem is with the .445 bolt face,  standard is .473 for a Rem bolt needs a Sako Extractor.  I had one of those mini-mauser 7.62x39 converted over to the 6ppc and it feeds out of the magazine and that is the reason Ruger was able to make a bolt action 6/22ppc rifle they were set up for the 7.62x39 rifle.

[Selmer]

It is my go-to varmint target rifle right now.  I have a 26" barrel for my Encore in this caliber and it is scary accurate.  The good loads make MOA look like piss-poor shooting, and it doesn't take the euber expensive BR bullets to do it.  I use Sierra 60 gr. HP's and Nosler 55 gr. BT's.  I had a .243 barrel as well and sold that in favor of the 6PPC because of the efficiency of the cartridge.  I can get 3450 out of the 55 gr. BT and 3350 out of the 60 gr. Sierra with a little more than half of the powder burned in the .243, and I intend to take it after mule deer this fall loaded up with an 85 gr. Nosler Partition that runs out a little over 2800 fps and groups under 1/2 MOA out to 250 yds.  I love the efficiency and the lack of recoil and muzzle blast compared to a .243 or similar varmint round.  I shoot a 6.5-20x44 Nikon Monarch on mine and can keep the target in the scope picture at 14x at 100 yds.  If you're thinking about it and have the funds, get one, but I will warn you of two things, it's an addictive round, and the specialty loading tools, along with pricey brass, need to be figured into the cost of the gun, unless you have a no-turn neck.  If you want more info, pm me.
Selmer

[nomosendero]

Selmer, good info! Who made the Encore barrel?

[Selmer]

It's a barrel I bought used that was made by the TC Custom shop.  I'm pretty sure I picked it up from the classifieds here on GB.
Selmer

[nodlenor]

I don't understand  why it isn't offered by more manufacturers. Seems a cartridge that accurate should sell like hotcakes. Does the 6BR compare favorably?  What bbl length would be best? Are there any light weight hunting rifles chambered for either of these cartridges? Thanks for your input, ideas, and opinions.

[rvtrav]

  Hello to everyone,

  To take advantage of a free match barrel that I was given, I had a 6mm ppc built on a mini mauser action a while back.
 I wanted a repeater varmint gun. It is like Selmer says; scary accurate! I also use the sierras and so far have stayed with the 60-75 gr bullets, I was told that the barrel that I had was rifled with these weights in mind and it may not stabilize heavier bullets. I plan to check out some of the heavier 85 and 90 grain bullets, as I think this would make an excellent antelope perscription.

  I have been puzzled by why this cartridge has been around so long (since the early '80s), and brass is still so hard to find and expensive, some of the new "flash in the pans" cartridges come out, and components are advertized the same day practically.

  The 6 ppc is still a very, very, accurate, highly efficient, varmint cartridge, that is fast,quiet, and easy on the shoulder for young shooters too. I wish it just made the 'crossover' to a mainstream round with more factory chambered guns, loaded ammo, components, and price all more available.

[roper]

I don't understand  why it isn't offered by more manufacturers. Seems a cartridge that accurate should sell like hotcakes. Does the 6BR compare favorably?  What bbl length would be best? Are there any light weight hunting rifles chambered for either of these cartridges? Thanks for your input, ideas, and opinions.

I wrote in an earlier post that Dakota purchased the rights to the ppc since (the 'PPC' name stands for 'Palmisano and Pindell Cartridge'),   I'm not sure who is covered by the copyrights.