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Offline gdolby

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« on: February 13, 2007, 11:42:32 AM »
Good day to all, First time poster but very often browser. I am getting into taking pictures of deer. I enjoy taking my family hunting but it has kind of lost interest to me(far as deer go). I have an olympus digital camera with a 10X zoom. It doesn't take the pics like I want. I can get anywhere from 150 to 40 yards and it still looks like they are a mile away. I read thru all the old posts here and noticed a lot of nikon camera w/ sigma lens combos. Does a beginner get something along those lines or is there a better place to start? I know nothing about cameras and money is a concern. Would appreciate some advice on whether I should go with film or digital/brand that is simple to run/ good buy/ zoom lenses/ and whatever pertains to getting decent pics.Thank you for your time.....Bill
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Re: New comer
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2007, 08:17:16 PM »
Come on down here more. Film will be cheaper to get going in because the camera's are cheaper but film cost's to develope and print. Nobody advertises film camera's much but they are fairly cheap now. Good digital SLR's start about $800 I think. I see a Nikon N80 film camera new at Abe's of Maine for $280. Sigma lense's work well or you can get Quantry lenses fron Ritz Camera. They are made by Sigma. I had one Tokina lense and liked it real well. Here's a couple Deer. The first was with filn and scanned into my computer and the second was with digital. Both were done with Sigma lenses.




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Re: New comer
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2007, 04:31:16 AM »
Good day Sir, great pics. I work on a hay farm and the alfalfa draws a lot of deer. I have counted as hi as 88 w/ 14 bucks at a time. this is why I want a camera. Thank you for your time and hope there is more suggestions.
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2007, 05:24:18 AM »
With a digital you can use the "digital zoom".  My Panasonic DMC-FZ7 has a 12x optical zoom, then you can digital zoom after that up to 48x.  The digital zoom hurts your resolution but not a noticible amount because the resolution is already better than the eye can see.  The biggest problem is that with the extreme zooming you can't hold the camera still.  Just using the optical zoom gets you a pretty good picture.  Plus theres the obvious advantage of being able to directly load your pics onto your computer.  Here's some from this year's Montana archery hunt:


That pronghorn is at about 30-35 yards


This pronghorn was about 25 yards.


This grebe was about 80 yards.  You can see that the resolution is worse because I was using the digital zoom to make it look so close


This porcupine was about 10 yards away.
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Re: New comer
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2007, 05:40:55 AM »
I've gone digital. Can't show great picts of deer like Don Fischer has posted but I do have have some of antelope and rocky mountain bighorn, have to learn how to post them. Your kind of shooting requires a long lens and a anti-shake feature. I have a Konica/Minolta A2 camera with a 28-200mm lens (now Sony) which works quite well. You may want to take a peek at this website, http://www.steves-digicams.com/hardware_reviews.html. Steve has reviews of what's available in the market and what you can expect to pay. Good luck.
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Re: New comer
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2007, 04:14:00 PM »
gdolby sounds like you have a pretty good digital and a 10x optical zoom is more than 80% of them have I'd say.

I think I understand your frustration with the zoom though. I purchased a 12x zoom last fall and the stuff that is close in the ranges you mentioned 40-150 yards I also felt the results were dismal. Where the zoom really shines is in the stuff way out there. I am very pleased with the stuff 400 plus yards away. The following two pics were taken standing in same spot.





I bought the Sony 12x zoom and they do have extra lens: more zoom, close up and wide angle for a very fair price. I may try them since they are fairly cheap since the next option seems to be a Single Lens Reflex (SLR) digital which has a ton of lens to zoom out there with but the prices are steep.

What about video? You can get 32x zoom on some of them and the prices are pretty fair these days.

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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2007, 05:24:14 PM »
I use a fuji s602 and only use the 10x optical zoom because the digital zoom destroys picture quality,i just get closer to the subject if 10x wont do the job.
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Re: New comer
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2007, 03:48:02 AM »
Good day to all, great pics and info ty......Bill
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