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Offline FallingCrows

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Winchester Model 69
« on: April 21, 2003, 07:52:36 AM »
Hello,
Do any of you have information on a Winchester Model 69.
Its a 22LR, bolt action, 5 round clip, magazine release is on the left side of the wood stock.
I'd like to know what the original barrel length was.  It appears to have  been chopped.
Are there any pictures available?
Is it possible to get a replacement barrel and stock butt?

Thanks for the help.
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2003, 12:28:01 PM »
Skunkie:  model 69 & 69a 5 or 10 shot repeater, 25 in. barrel aperture or open rear sight, not serial #, Approx. 355,000 mfg. between 1935-1963.  Add 40% for target model and Add 20% for groved reciever, hope that is a little help.  100% $350 down to 60% $85.00  :D   JIM

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Winchester Model 69
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2003, 03:01:21 PM »
Yep, my 69A has a 25" barrel. For used parts, try Numrich Gun Parts. I got some for mine there a few months ago (spare clip, front sight hood, ect).

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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2003, 02:47:16 AM »
Thank you for the information.
The rifle I have has a 16" barrel.  So I guess it has been chopped.  And I think the barrel is bent because its not very accurate.  Even after adjusting the sites, I still have to aim for the bottom Left corn of the target to get it to hit the bullseye.  I'm going to see if I can get a replacement barrel.

Do any of you know if the Model 69A barrel will fit the Model 69?
How about the model 75 barrel?

Again, Thanks for the help
- skunkie
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2003, 05:27:59 PM »
First thing I'd try is switching ammo.  Try some of everything that you can get your hands on (and make good notes).   Its quick, cheap and involves the least amount of labour (and probably the least amount of money, too).  

What distance were you at?  Depending on the ammo, a barrel that shoots high at 50 yards may be right on at 75 or 100.  (The rifle I shoot most often is zeroed at 75 yards with Federal Gold match, and will shoot about 1.5" high at 50 yards, and 3.5" low at 100.  Changing to a different bullet weight and/or a different velocity will change those numbers.)

If this barrel was cut down, I can see two possible problems: it may not have been re-crowned correctly, or whatever was used as the new front sight is at the wrong height (and off center, too, as you say that the point of impact is always both high and to the right of the point of aim).

Other than the high and to the right business, does this rifle group well?  If it won't group, I'd look at re-crowning.  If it groups well, I'd look at adjusting or replacing the front sight.  Many can be drifted left to right to adjust for the windage error, but you'll have to make the front sight taller to lower the point of impact.  I saw something t'other day about moulding some glass bedding compound around a front sight for just this purpose (but of course, I no longer recall where I saw that...you might try asking on the "Gunsmithing" forum).

Even if you can find a replacement barrel at a reasonable price, experiment a little with this one.  At this point, you can't make it any worse, and the only thing it will cost you is time....

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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2003, 05:37:59 PM »
Give this site a look. Numrich may have what you need.  :D
        http://www.e-gunparts.com/forum/forums.asp
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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2003, 03:48:24 AM »
Thanks for the Help.

The rifle does group well, but I'm not talking high and to the right by 1 - 2 inches.  It's more like a foot (12").  I can't adjust the front site because it was jammed into the dovetail grove and I can't get it to move.  The rear and peep site are all the way down and I still shoot high/right.

Thanks for the web link.  I called them today.  They don't have any.
I may end up putting a 69A barrel on it.  Or maybe just wait until a show comes to town.

Agian, Thanks for the Help.
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2003, 06:31:06 PM »
Sounds like a good candidate for the Aguila SSS 60gr stuff...my experience has been that that heavy slow bullet drops like a rock.....


More parts suppliers:

Marstar (http://www.marstar.ca/)
Rural Route #1
Vankleek Hill, Ont.
K0B 1R0 (Canada
613-678-3173

Gunville.com
Silver Hill Holding Company
P.O. Box 35, Kernersville, N.C. 27285
336-746-5865.  


W.G.P. LTD. (Western Gun Parts LTD.)
18124-107 AVE, Edmonton, AB, Canada, T5S 1K5
PH.780-489-5711 FAX 780-489-5717
Toll Free North American Order FAX 1-888-489-5717

Hoosier Gun Works
7843 Huber Ct.
Indianapolis, In 46226
317-897-2763  10-5 M-F CST  Phone/Fax
www.hoosiergunworks.com

Larry Poppert (www.poppertsgunparts.com)
P.O. Box 413
Glenside, PA 19038
215-887-2391 Tel
215-887-5816 Fax

Blue Ridge Collectibles
Phil Saccacio
PO Box 47
Afton VA USA 22920


Good luck,

MM

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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2003, 03:58:34 AM »
Thank you very much for the info. :-D

I'm now in the process of contacting all of them.
I'll let you know if I'm successful and how much my phone bill will be.

- skunkie
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2003, 04:38:24 PM »
Found that link to moulding yourself a new sight blade:

http://www.surplusrifle.com/sights/frontsight/index.asp

It was on Graybeard's Military Surplus Rifles forum (so close, yet so far...)

A bit o'tinfoil, a little JB weld and some patience might have you in business....   After all, you can't make it any worse!

Any luck from the parts guys yet?

Good luck,

MM

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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2003, 10:52:22 AM »
No, I haven't and I've called and wrote all kinds of people.
The closest I've come is a 69A barrel.
Someone directed me to E-bay, but by the time I found the barrel it was sold.  Ug!
I'm going to make it a point to get to a gun show.
thanks for asking.
- skunkie
I love the smell of Black Powder in the Fall