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Burgundian howitzer
« on: November 30, 2006, 05:11:16 PM »
 This is a Burgundian howitzer,split trail, 3" bore and shoots stone projectiles.  I have plenty of ammo as the water plants use them for filters and chnge them periodically.  I'll take a pic with the can tomorrow or Saturday.  You can deleat the pic if it has to have the can.




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Re: Burgundian howitzer
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2006, 04:03:25 AM »
This gun and the 24 PDR Coehorn are just to interesting to be lumped in one post so I split them out.

This gun is neat. I do like it! 


Have you shot it? Tell us more

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Re: Burgundian howitzer
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2006, 07:42:59 AM »
Thanks for the compliment.  I have not shot it yet.  I will take some better pics with a can later.  It is a replica of a late 15th century Burgundian howitzer sometimes called wheeled mortars.  This one does not have a removable powder chamber.  I copied it from photos  of a piece in a museum in Austria.  The carriage in a replica of another 15th century carriage that was easier to build.  It has a 3" bore with 1.5" powder chamber. This one took about 2-3years to finish.  I do sometimes have 2-3 projects going on at the same time.  The bolts should be replaced with large rivits but that would make it a lot harder to take apart if I ever need to.

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Re: Burgundian howitzer
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2006, 11:26:05 AM »
Soooo, RCBS did not invent the first Rock Chucker!

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Re: Burgundian howitzer
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2006, 11:26:35 AM »
Nice looking 15th Century gun you have there ... more pictures please ... May add one to my collection ... Thanks for sharing...

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Re: Burgundian howitzer
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2006, 12:00:35 PM »
Ed... Grind the trunions off a Brookes Mini-Mortar and you could make a mini-Burgundian howitzer

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Re: Burgundian howitzer
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2006, 01:58:42 PM »
Na Rickk!!! A barrel like that has to be steel... Maybe Dom can cut one for Me? And I'll do the rest... ;D

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Re: Burgundian howitzer
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2006, 02:17:05 PM »
Here is a photo of the bbl almost finished.  I did not have a digital camera at the time.  It looks larger than it is in the pic.  There is a stud on the back that goes in the recoil plate. 




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Re: Burgundian howitzer
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2006, 04:44:29 PM »
I like it.

That’s all I need another project to put on the stack.

Thanks for the pics.

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Re: Burgundian howitzer
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2006, 04:46:56 PM »
That looks tough !!! ., what is the bore size of this fine piece.

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Re: Burgundian howitzer
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2006, 04:54:32 PM »
3" bore and shoots stone projectiles.  I have plenty of ammo as the water plants use them for filters and change them periodically.

Careful if you build one, stones bounce.  it has a light carriage for metalic projectiles and the original ones used stone.  Stones can cause sparks so a lube is necessary.

I have another that shoots 3" dia stones. A replica of the Kufstein mortar.  It is about 7/8 th scale because I had the free steel.

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Re: Burgundian howitzer
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2006, 04:56:56 PM »
Soooo, RCBS did not invent the first Rock Chucker!



Groan!!!

That's bad even for your Tim.   :)

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Re: Burgundian howitzer
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2006, 05:02:03 PM »
Awesome banging off stones !! Thats really ole school... postng More pictures of  burgundian howie would be really nice of you...

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Re: Burgundian howitzer
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2006, 03:04:21 PM »
More pics
Almost forgot the projectile, sorry it is not with the cannon.











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Re: Burgundian howitzer
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2006, 03:38:11 PM »
Very interesting. What is the wheel diameter?
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Re: Burgundian howitzer
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2006, 03:50:58 PM »
12" plus the steel rims

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Re: Burgundian howitzer
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2006, 04:55:37 PM »
Thank you.
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Re: Burgundian howitzer
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2006, 03:31:20 AM »
They had one of these on the History channel last night and fired it.  It was a breech loader.  They fired the stone ball through a replica ships hull.  In the berm behind the hull they found the stone ball...well half the ball.  When you were on a ship that go hit with one of these you had to duck wood splinters and stone fragments.

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Re: Burgundian howitzer
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2006, 06:31:18 AM »
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They had one of these on the History channel last night and fired it.  It was a breech loader.  They fired the stone ball through a replica ships hull.  In the berm behind the hull they found the stone ball...well half the ball.  When you were on a ship that go hit with one of these you had to duck wood splinters and stone fragments
I remember that show.  It was great.  I thought about doing a breech loader but muzzle loader with a shorter bbl was easier to make.  I still have not given up on the idea of a breech loader but my youngest son want me to do the Puckle gun next.  Yes a Puckle.  I got all the references I could find and drew it up 4-5 years ago.  I am going to copy the missing one as it was all iron and smaller bore than the others. 

If anyone does shoot stones, caution they bounce  I have not shot any at a solid target in 25 years.  I shot a load of stones at a wooden backstop with my first gun( 2" deck gun) about 25 years ago.  My dad 83 and a WWII Airborne artillery vet rembered this and talked about it yesterday.   That really surprised me.  He does not remember the exact number of jumps he made (13th and 82nd Airborne) but remembered the stones crashing through the backstop.  We were a long way away behind a sand bank when it discharged.

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Re: Burgundian howitzer
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2006, 06:42:44 AM »
Nice job! I'm using a vey similar carraige for my 2.2" bore bombard. I can't wait to see some pics of firing.

P.S. If you ever need any reference pics for pre-1700 artilery, shoot me an email. I have quite a few reference books for the early stuff.
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Re: Burgundian howitzer
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2006, 07:58:17 AM »
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Nice job! I'm using a vey similar carraige for my 2.2" bore bombard. I can't wait to see some pics of firing.


thanks
Can we see the bombard?

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P.S. If you ever need any reference pics for pre-1700 artilery, shoot me an email. I have quite a few reference books for the early stuff.
I am alway looking for information on early artillery pieces.  Email coming