National Guardsmen overrun at the Border by armed gunmen

[williamlayton]

ALMTNMAN
I would agree with you if we are talking marshal law. Then there is no other law.
I hope it never comes to this---I doubt we would ever get rid of it---some folks would find this too much of an advantage---and take advantage.
I was not discussing martial law I was discussing using the military to uphold the law of another jurisdiction.
Sorry for the confusion.
Blessings

[Almtnman]

ALMTNMAN
I would agree with you if we are talking marshal law. Then there is no other law.
I hope it never comes to this---I doubt we would ever get rid of it---some folks would find this too much of an advantage---and take advantage.
I was not discussing martial law I was discussing using the military to uphold the law of another jurisdiction.
Sorry for the confusion.
Blessings

Agreed.

Now what about this, we send troops to the border on the false pretension that they are being sent there to help secure our border, only they are not, as most of us know. Everyone knows full well why they were sent is because the Minutemen that spent a lot of time on the border brought to our countries attention that our country was doing anything to secure the border. What, I don't know the exact number but several hundreds of thousands of illegals circumvent the border each year just strolling in at thier own will. Our southern border is a BIG JOKE! It was mostly a charade with few border patrol agents, not enough to really protect the border. So to appease the people, our government sends in the troops, only they can't do anything either. Now a small incident has brought it to the forefront again that what our government did was nothing more than appeasment and wasn't anything at all to secure our southern border. So what do we do about this. We need to keep getting the information out that our border is NOT secure and we are not going to keep standing for the whimpy excuses that we're given that they are.

If we send troops to the border, they need to be well armed WITH ammo and anyone circumventing the border in military uniforms armed with weapons needs to be shot on sight. It wouldn't take long for the message to get out, "better not stroll over there with weaponary and in uniform or you will be shot on sight". It works on the same principal as an 18 wheeler trucker getting the word out that they're checking log books down the road a ways. If it takes some intestional fortitude out of our leaders to do that with giving them the power to do so, I sure would like to see something more than a Mickey Mouse operation that's in effect down there now. This excuse giving and debating the issue is not getting it!

[hardertr]

I just watched a documentary on PBS last night about illegals crossing the border.  They estimated over 500,000 actually make it across each year.

They also talked to a coyote who said he has been arrested over 65 times while bringing illegals across.  All WE do is give him a free ride back home....so he can do it all over again.

Another thing that really irritated me was an interview they did with a priest on OUR side.  He and his followers (most of them looked to be young white kids under 20 yrs old) would send money to an organization in Mexico that would refill water points allong several known "immigration routes".  Seems to me that something like that would be "aiding and abetting".

Why should our military be sent to secure a border....when the Government does nothing to those that help illegals cross??  There are THOUSANDS of known illegals that wait for work every morning...and the government turns a blind eye to it.  There is no sense in securing the border, when the government doesn't care who or how many make it across.

[powderman]

I believe Foxx is out....Caldarone is el presidente now.......TM7

TM7. I thought they were still fighting about that. POWDERMAN. 

[jh45gun]

I support President Bush Have since day one and he is a hell of a better choice to run the country compared to who ran against him. Folks have short memories he said after 911 That this would be a tough fight and it would not be won easy or would it be won fast. Now about the border issue he is the wrong person to address this issue since he has family issues that put him in the middle. Since Jeb is married to a lady from Mexico and she is the President's sister-in-law it kinda puts him in a damned if I do or damned if I do not situatation when it comes to the border and the immigration issue. Myself I wish he would take a tough stance on the issue, I however do not see that happening due to the family issue and it is hard to blame him over that as most of us would have the same time dealing with that ourselves maybe.

[williamlayton]

What will toops on the border do. They can't arrest or issue citations. they can't enforce law.
That is the reason they retreated--all they can do is observe movement and call for help.
God forbid if they shoot anyone.
Blessings

[Almtnman]

What will toops on the border do. They can't arrest or issue citations. they can't enforce law.
That is the reason they retreated--all they can do is observe movement and call for help.
God forbid if they shoot anyone.
Blessings

That's exactly why in my last post that I said; "our southern border is a big joke"!

[jh45gun]

Well not sure about his own ajenda what I mean is pretty hard to come down on Mexicans when you have them in the family and from what I have heard Bush does like his sister-in-law so pretty hard to keep peace in the family and still be tough on immigration. Like I said considering he has a person who came from Mexico in his family he is the wrong person to address the issue. Call it a Conflict of Interest if you want.