Any handgun hunters using barnes all copper bullets?

[teddy12b]

I've been reading some posts with people commenting on 357mag and 44mag bullets coming apart as they enter a deer.  These case have mostly taken place with hollow points, but I was curious if anyone had tried to fix this problem by usign the all copper bullets?  I found the post through the search once and the second time I went to look for it I couldn't find it, go figure.

[Greeenriver]

I've never tried them in a handgun, but I have used them in a rifle.  Mu experence with the Barnes X bullets in a rifle was . less than satisfactory, to say the least.  I was using them in a .243 for Deer, and I simply was not getting the wound channel I felt was necessary for clean kills. Most Deer I shot with them had to be shot twice, and after going back to a Hornidy JSP, one shot kills are the norm.

I have never had a problem with 44mag JHP blowing up and not getting the penitration needed on deer, most have gone completly through the Deer and left a good wound channel behind, allowing one shot kills as the norm.  A standard factory 240grn JHP from Rem or Win is all I've ever found necessary on deer, heaver bullets are available, but most of the energy of the heaver bullets is waisted on the distance the bullet travels AFTER it has penitrated the deer.  Best of all worlds and the perfict bullet would completly penitrate the deer and fall on the ground on the other side, most of the energy is used in the deer, not on the open air past the deer. I have only ever recovered a couple of teh 240grn JHP factory loads from deer, and they were against the hide on the other side after a double shoulder shot.  The deer were DRT.  (DRT = Dead Right There)

Any more, the heavest bullet I use on deer is a 200grn from a 45colt, and in the 44's, I use eather a 180grn JSP or a 200grn cast.

The deer can't tell the diference in them.

Greeenriver

[slave]

I can not comment on 44 or 357 XPB bullets but the corbon 460 s/w loaded with the 275gr Barnes XPB is the ticket. At over 2500 fps they open up every time but they do not come apart like the Hornaday SST. Not a perfect comparsion because the SST are 200gr and are moving over 2700fps.

[osceola]

I have used and witnessed the devastating effects of the Barnes Pistol Bullet.  At 1,000fps or 2,100 fps, they open every time.  They cause a hydraulic action similar to a blender.  What goes in at a 45 caliber, exits as a 75 caliber.  The ever popular soggy phonebook test, 95% or better weight retention, 5" cavity, they open quick and drive all the way, no jacket separation.   I have spent 100's of dollars on XTP's, XTP-Mags, Sierra etc and will never go back.  I shoot a .454 at 1,600 fps, have seen them out of .45 Colt(strong framed) 1,100 fps, BFR 45-70 at 2,100 fps, they all do a number on whitetails.  Witnessed 3 Barnes Pistol Bullet one shot kills this weekend, 2 over 125 yds, they are capable of great accuracy and it was evident that they opened.  I suggest that they are worth checking out.