remington 700

[CLEM]

I am looking for some help with a Remington 700 in .243. After reading some articles on the net about firing when taking the saftey off I thought I should try mine. About every third or fourth time I pull the trigger with the saftey FULLY on when I put it to the fire position it will fire.  I am trying this with the gun unloaded. Also two or three times  I have pulled the trigger with the saftey on and put it to the fire position and it did not fire but when I went to open the bolt it fired. Dose any body have a cure for this problem. It is a newer gun, you can open the bolt with the safety on. I would be thankful for any help. I thought when I read that stuff on the net it was just people remington bashing or looking to make money from a law suit because a worn out gun fired when it shouldn't have. I bought this gun used but has only seen about a 100 rounds.   Thanks Clem.

[Graybeard]

I would be willing to bet that the trigger on it has been worked over by someone who had no clue what they were doing. The sear adjustment is almost certainly set improperly. I find an online source for how to adjust the trigger on a Rem. 700 and follow it except I'd make darn sure the sear adjustment was a bit more than it says to make it just to be sure. That's a screw I NEVER EVER touch on my guns so I'm not familiar with it but I'd be willing to be about 1/2 turn to a full turn of it in the correct direction will end those problems for good. Don't forget to reseal the screws after you adjust.

But then it's possible someone has "honed" the trigger/sear as they like to call it when a would be gunsmith butchers a gun. If so then a replacement is likely in order.

[Nobade]

GB is most likely correct, but it could also be as simple as having some sticky goo in the trigger housing. If it is working properly, the safety cams the sear bar off the trigger shoe when applied. If the trigger is pulled with the safety applied, and there is goo in there, it can stay stuck to the rear in firing position. Then the only thing holding the sear bar is the safety. So when it is released, the gun fires. It is important to never use anything that can gum up one of those triggers, like WD-40. Some dry lube on the sear engagement surfaces is fine, but nothing anywhere else. BTW, the new redesigned Remington trigger addresses this design. The safety positively cams the trigger into engagement with the sear when it is released. I think it's going to be a good design and am looking forward to having them in production.

[CLEM]

Dose anybody have a good web sight with pictures and instructions. Also what kind of dry lube do you recomend, just plan graphite spray. Will the new trigger design fit in the older guns or have they changed the hole thing. thanks Clem

[gunnut69]

I read that the triggers will exchange. The current trigger's problem is not so much it's mode of operation but the connector (#47 on the diagram at the attached link. It is not attached and if anything sticky is present it is likely to hang in the unreset position.. I usually use DrySlide or just graphite on triggers..  To clean the trigger spray with brake ckeaner(remove the wood first) and blow dry. Lube with a dry lube and retest.. Most likely all will be well.                 
http://stevespages.com/ipb-remington-700.html

[Nobade]

I finally got to play with one of the new triggers today. I'd have to say it's quite an improvement. The connector is gone, the surface that bears on the sear bar is now part of the trigger blade. The blade and the sear bar are now made of powdered metal, and are incredibly hard. I think a trigger job is going to last a whole lot longer on the new triggers. They are finely adjustable, (once you burn the loctite off so you can turn the screws) and the new design that blocks the trigger from being pulled when the safety is applied is a step in the right direction of eliminating ADs due to a dirty trigger assembly. Kudos to Remington, they actually improved something when they redesigned it! (And the new fluted fiiring pins are nice too. Almost as light as an aluminum bodied one!)