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Offline motordog80

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turkish mauser misfires
« on: January 28, 2007, 09:37:55 AM »
First off I dont know that much about milsurp mausers.  I just bought a Turkish 8mm 98, with some old milsurp ammo.  after cleaning the gun I went to shoot it , but most of the ammo would not fire.   I did not know if it was the gun or the ammo, I assumed it was the ammo.  If so do I try other milsurp ammo, or get new production?  I just wanted some Ideas or sugestions.
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Re: turkish mauser misfires
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2007, 02:07:36 PM »
Not knowing what kind of ammo you bought or its condition, I can only give some basic suggestions.  Check the primers and note the indentation.  If it is erratic, you probably have something in the bolt body that is jamming up the works.  If the primer indents are consistent and light, there is probably old congealed grease and other stuff, like rust, or even tow.  If the primer indents are deep and consistent, then it probably is the ammo.  I would strip the bollt and soak it overnight in a good cleaner, then scrub the interior.  A broken spring or firing pin will be immediately evident.  It is possible, too, that the spring has taken a set.  Try stretching it and see if that helps.  If it does, it is time to order another spring.  Look at the tip of the firing pin and see if it is uneven. peened,  or short.  Replace it if it is bunged up. 
Look at the ammo. If it is in original containers, do they show water damage or damage from rough handling?  Are the cases or bullets corroded?  Break down and buy a box of modern sporting ammo and see if it fires consistently.  By this time, you should know if you have a keeper or the raw materials for a rifle floor lamp.  Good luck.

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Re: turkish mauser misfires
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2007, 11:40:59 PM »
Without more info I would guess two things.

First: Does the ammo you have have a 50s date on the headstamp?  There is a lot of 50s yugo ammo out there.  It is great ammo, but you need to slap the primer darn hard to get it to go off.

Second: Remember that the firing pin spring is old, I often replace them with a 24lb spring from wolff, and the really helps.

Those turks can be great fun, and ammo is cheap!
Jim

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Re: turkish mauser misfires
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2007, 01:54:36 AM »
I would suggest (1) clean the bolt; (2) replace the firing pin and firing pin spring; and (3) then see if your ammo detonates and if not get some other ammo.

A point to remember is that lots of mil-surp 8mm ammo is probably older than you are and although it may have been stored properly is may not detonate.  If the firing pin and spring are good then it is the ammo.  If you want to shoot mil-usrp 8mm you may have to look for another source if this stuff does not go 'bang'.  HTH.  Mikey.

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Re: turkish mauser misfires
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2007, 05:08:19 AM »
where should I get a manual/ stripping guide for this? or are they all the same.  Is there anything onling that is free? 

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Re: turkish mauser misfires
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2007, 05:24:57 AM »
I will bet it is the AMMO. If the primers have uniform relatively deep dents and do not fire.
Buy a box of new manufactured ammo and see if it all fires. Wolf premium or Sellier & Bellot
is pretty good stuff. Look on http://www.cheaperthandirt.com for it
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Re: turkish mauser misfires
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2007, 06:01:09 AM »
Motordog, this URL should answer all your questions about stripping a Mauser bolt.  It even has pictures of the steps:http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting/mauserboltdisassembly/index.asp

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Re: turkish mauser misfires
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2007, 10:59:46 PM »
thanks, I took the bolt apart and cleaned it up last night.  I am planning on getting new ammo today and trying it out.  The spring and pin looked good, thats not to say it wouldnt help getting a new one.