KYODE - I got your meaning pard... I get where your're going in the Encores with the Contenders with my JDJ's and Bower's. I hate to see Contender barrels chambered in things they shouldn't be whether they have a "load down" warning with/on them or not. Sooner or later, if these barrels change hands enough times, the warning isn't going to be passed along or heeded and somebody is going to get hurt. I've known JD for a heck of a lot of years, respect his knowledge of TC wildcatting, but have a bone to pick with him when he does these barrels, or worse yet, rechambers them on factory barrels.
Bob - Welcome to the forum. TC lost more than just tooling in the fire, the full extent of which I could only guess until I spent 3-4 hours talking to Timmy and Ken at the 2K show. Even though I had been a strong supporter and user of their products (Contenders and Hawkens) for about 30 years at that time, the answers and attitudes I got from them convinced me to dump all my factory stuff ('cept a few frames). FWIW, Timmy would have to come up some to get to Willie's level IMO (morals).