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Inline accessories...
« on: February 22, 2007, 02:41:17 PM »
 I am totally new to muzzleloading. I have been a rifle/handgun guy up till this point and reload my own ammo. I have been around the old muzzle loaders but never owned one of my own. I recently stumbled across a new Winchester X-150( I believe) for the right price. This gun takes 209 primers. In the state of Colorado you cannot use scopes or pelletized powder. So I was curious as to see if you guys could help get me set up with all the possibles that I am going to need to hunt this fall. Also if there is any information online that might be beneficial to me. If you could please point me in that direction also Thanks!!

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Re: Inline accessories...
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2007, 04:17:28 PM »
 :D Thats easy, not only do i own an X-150 i too am from colorado.

First thing you'll want to do is look at the barrel and the stock, take note of all material touching the sides of the barrel and once its all marked, use a file and take off all the marked spots until there is no material touching the barrel.

 To help you with powder and Bullets, Pick up a can of pyrodex RS loose powder and either some 350 grain TC maxi hunters Or 385 grain great plains bullets. By taking off all the material touching my barrel i was able to go from 2 1/2" groups @ 100 yards, down to 1" groups at 100 with open sights. That was with shooting 90 grains pyrodex rs and 385 grain great plains bullet.

i also use the TC speed loaders, they have a built in 209 primer holder and i load up 5 or 6 of them and keep them in my pocket for hunting.

 Primers- Use either CCI or Federal primers or winchester w209. I like the cci's best due to them not covering the bolt with a lot of fouling.

Breech plug- My favorite plug grease is Gorilla grease, Only finger tighten your breechplug after cleaning.

If you have a hard time seeing your sights in dim light, like i did, Go to cabelas and order Truglo sights for $43 + shipping, You wont regret it.

If you ever want to shoot sabots, use a .45 sabot, ive gotten the best accuracy from them and only use them for plinking targets at 200 yards.

 But make sure you remove all the material touching the barrel, you can also remove the barrel after shooting and if you see any shiny rub marks on the barrel, thats messing up your groups and needs to be removed!
 Another easier way to find where its rubbing is to slide a sheet of paper between the barrel and stock, where ever it stops, mark the area with scotch tape, take off the barrel and take that area down. refit the barrel and do it again untill the paper slides down to the first lug.

 Good luck and enjoy it! I've had mine for 4 years and never had any problems with it, good quality rifle.

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Re: Inline accessories...
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2007, 04:39:04 PM »
heres a pic of the stuff i use. But for hunting i only take the capper " which i dont have to use" 5-6 tc speed loaders and a short starter just incase i need it. When using the cci or federal 209's, after firing, the firing pin will pull the primer halfway out and you just  use a quick flick and the primer falls out. The winchester w209's expand greater and they do require the use of the primer tool.


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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2007, 02:20:13 PM »
I appreciate the help! I normally float the barrels on all my rifles so I am pretty aquainted with that. We were tllking about it at work today.They also mentioned some of the things that you described. I am also about to endure bullet casting for my pistols so maybe I will pick up a 45 cal. mold and some sabots, ofcourse just for plinking.However I believe in WY sabots are legal and I normally go up antelope hunting there. It would be nice to smack one with the smokepole. Again thanks for all the advice. Where in CO are you from? Longmont here.

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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2007, 03:06:24 PM »
Im 18 miles west of Trinidad, up in the mountains a ways.

 Dont expect the best accuracy from the home cast bullets, ive been struggling to get mine to group at 100 yards with home made sabots. The hornady .45 SST are deadly accurate. It also doesnt take much to float the barrels on these, i used 3 shims made out of engine bearing shims.

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Re: Inline accessories...
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2007, 03:44:29 AM »
Ever consider your struggles to be your home made sabots?
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2007, 04:56:09 AM »
They have phone service way out there?? ;) Man you gotta be closer to town!! Thanks for the info!

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Re: Inline accessories...
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2007, 07:54:15 AM »
Ever consider your struggles to be your home made sabots?

Yup thats exactly what my accuracy problems are. 240g grain home cast flatnosed bullets.
 The hornady sst with 250 grain copperjacket bullet was shooting excellent with 20mph wind. The home grown bullets were flying all over.