No slap at you Lloyd,,but just mentioned it as a lot of folks have said when finding out about the .38/44 that they didn't know there was a "N" frame till '55 when the .44mag.came out,that the 1917 and the triplelocks were on a smaller frame,sorry if I slighted you,,just habit I guess.Yea Savage,I know what ya mean about nicknames,,I was in 125mm gunmount during live-fire/rapid-fire and my 2nd loader laid the a 85lb.H-E in the trough before the last round was on it's way(caught up in the cadence) and everyone else bailed out,,without thinking about it I reached in and lifted the round out and the gun went off as I lifted it clear,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,THATS WHEN I STARTED TREMBLING!!!THAT WAS CLOSE!!!,,,when my crew came back to the gun that obviously not blown-up,,I looked at the and with false bravado stated ...."NO SWEAT!!...",so I got tagged with NO SWEAT for the rest of my tour,i'm pretty sure nothing would have happened anyway but a jammed gun.