Hornet ejector help

[trotterlg]

I posted yesterday also, someone who has a hornet barrel must be able to tell me what type of ejector it has in it.  Is it the type a shotgun and rimfire use (wider than it is tall where it goes in the barrel lug) or the rifle style like a .223 has that can drop down and is taller than it is wide?  I need one that is longer for my 30 carbine project and NEF will not sell the rimfire ejectors without fitting them to the barrel.  They will sell rifle and shotgun ejectors, so if a hornet has the kind I need then I will buy one.  The picture below is what the body of the one I need looks like.  Please if you have a Hornet take a look for me so I can order this up or start building one from scratch.  Larry

[MSP Ret]

PM sent....<><....

[MSP Ret]

The hornet has a rimmed rifle style of ejector, mine measures appx .206 wide and is the same width as my .25-06 ejector (30-06/.308/.243/.280/7mm-08 group, and according to one person at H&R is
the same ejector they use on the .22-250). It is taller than it is wde (not wide like a shotgun or rimfire ejector) and it does not use a lifter button and a latch (lifter button) spring. For a rimless case you will need a lifter button installed after drilling the appropriate 1/8" hole in the barrel lug, deburring it and installing a lifter button and latch (lifter button) spring. The ejector itself may be a bit of a problem but I believe at this time the best bet may be to machine or hand file a shotgun ejector to the correct shape, the rear section of the base will also have to be thinned to allow the ejector to drop below the rim and then to spring up again (lifter button and latch spring) and engage the rim fpr ejection. If you take an ejector out of a rimfire (that you may own?) I suggest you look at it and do a bit of brainstorming, if you can get it to fit and work well you could then just send that barrel back to H&R without the ejector and have another one fitted..just a thought. The problem I see now is that the ejector slot on the donor barrel is wider than the rifle ejectors at a width that alllows the use of shotgun ejectors of appx. .312" width. if that slot were narrower or perhaps just by machining the slot in the stub barrel to the proper width, one that allows a rifle ejector appx. .206" wide to slide in and out the problem may be solved....<><....

[MSP Ret]

Hi Larry, I have reviewed your up dated pictures of you project and think by using and fitting a standard H&R rimless centerfire ejector your problem may very well be solved. If you get a cance and wish to give me a call and we can discuss this matter. I am going to do abit more research and try to decide which standard H&R ejector may be better for your application....<><....

[MSP Ret]

OK, one more post Larry, I think a standard H&R .223 ejector may work for for your application. I just tried a .30 cal carbione round in one of my .223's and I believe it is very possible to make it work in your .30 cal carbine conversion. I also think any shotgun ejector you may get will be to short to reach the shell for ejection. If the .223 is short by a couple of thousandts I believe there is a way to easily remedy that problem by judisiously removing the couple of thousandts you may need from the proper area on the top of the ejector shank. However I do believe it may work very well as it comes from the factory, you will have to machine the proper slot width and depth for it in the back of the barrel stub at the breech end and drill and fit the ejector button and latch spring in the lug but I don't believe any of that is a great problem as long as you have the proper machinery. Please keep us posted....<><....

[naedlaen]

Larry,

MSP and I must think alike.  While I was checking case dimensions, he posted about the 223 ejector.

223 dimensions http://stevespages.com/jpg/cd223remington.jpg

30 Carbine http://stevespages.com/jpg/cd30m1carbine.jpg

the difference is about 0.02 at the base of the case

Neal

[MSP Ret]

Thanks Neal, to make it even a better fit the ejector is fitted (measured) to the radius not the diameter therefore the difference shrinks to 1/2 that amount or .01", some of that will be taken up in machining tolerances and the rest if needed can be obtained by thinning, either by flat filing or maching, the top of the ejector body, but I am fairly confident it woud not be requiured, if it was it is a simple matter. I made my decision by measuring cases of unfired .30 cal carbine ammo and commercial .223 Rem ammo, and then trying a .30 cal round in one of my .223 Handis. Those schematics were great for verification. I am going to put that site into my favorites, Thanks....<><....