double tap ammo

[shooter]

Will Double Tap hot ammo like the 200 and 230gr beartooth etc be ok to use in my glock 20C for hunting and or practicing ?
I'd like to try it on a maine bear hunt this fall.
Shooter

[Gary paugh]

Yes it will work just make sure your recoil spring is in good shape.

[Savage]

The pistol will handle the ammo just fine. Just not so sure the pistol will handle the bear. Wear some really good running shoes just in case he takes issue with being shot with the 10mm.
No doubt the pistol/cartridge will take the bear down, it's more a matter of if it's before or after he mauls you. Good luck!
Savage

[Keith L]

Thank you Savage.  That's what I have been thinking.  I would want more distance between me and the bear before taking the shot.  To each their own.

[Ak.Hiker]

The DT 200 grain FMJ shoots just fine in my Glock 29. I just shot some today. Its good ammo. I shot some DT 255 grain Keith 45 Colt loads on my last outing. Judging from the damage to the chunks of wood I was shooting into I would pick the heavy Keith loads myself if I was going to hunt bear with a handgun.

[shooter]

I dont see the problem .These loads are same as a factory 41 magnum and the bullet itself will hold up on a shoulder shot.I've got no problem 25 yrds from a tree stand over bait.We'll see what the guide says 1st.My 30.06 will be with me too.lol
Shooter

[Ak.Hiker]

You are right about the penetration of the non expanding FMJ and cast loads by DT in the 10mm. My guess is you would have complete penetration on a black bear. Lots of black bears have been taken with lesser calibers. Your Glock 20 would be a better hunting handgun than my 29. A poster on another site took a black bear with his Glock 10mm loaded with the 200 grain Hornady XTP bullet.

[Savage]

It would certainly be safer hunting bear from a tree stand over bait. I would still be concerned about wounding the animal and having a long day tracking using the 10mm. I enjoy shooting my 10mm, and would use it for deer at reasonable ranges, and bear if I had to for defense. I wouldn't go out looking for a bear with the 10. Don't own a 41 mag, but would feel better with one due to the 200fps/100fpe that the .41 mag produces over the 10mm. Would that power margin be significant over the 10mm? Guess I'll never know!
Savage

[shooter]

10mm factory loads vs 41 mag factory loads

Winchester 41mag 240 gr jhp 833 ft/lbs @1250 fps
Winchester 41 mag 175 gr jhp 607 ft/lbs @1250 fps

Double tap 10mm 200 gr jhp 694 ft/lbs @1250 fps
Double tap 10mm 200 gr WFNGC beartooth 750 ft/lbs @1250 fps

I'd say,at least in this comparison the 10mm can do anything the 41 mag can do. Good deer cartridge and a " if need be " black bear cartridge.
Shooter

[Savage]

Shooter,
Here is a link where you can do a more valid comparison of available factory ammo. http://www.gunsandammomag.com/ballistics/
You'll find that Corbon markets a 250gr @ 1325fps for 975fpe in the .41 mag. As most handgun hunters are hand loaders, the 200gr bullet (If that's what you like), can be safely pushed to around the 1550fps in the .41 mag. I load and shoot the 10mm, and it's a heck of a cartridge, but it's no .41mag!
Savage

[shooter]

Thanks savage but i was only considering factory ammo,hence thats why i quoted their numbers.I don't reload.So,for me the point is moot.If i was willing to shoot a bear with my 41 mag with winchester ammo,then i see no difference with shooting one with the hot doubletap ammo.
shooter

[Keith L]

I don't have a .41 (or a 10mm for that matter) but I do have several 45 Colts and they all outshoot my Glocks at 25 yards.  My Glocks are great inside 10 yards, and are so reliable that I never even consider them able to fail.  But they are not as accurate as I would like for hunting at 25 yards.  In fairness to the Glocks I rarely shoot them at any but defensive ranges, and I never shoot the 45s at any less than 25 yards.  Maybe if I shot the Glocks at longer ranges I would get better.

[Savage]

Shooter,
Just for clarification, the  numbers I gave you for the 250gr in .41 mag are factory ammo specs. 250gr @1325fps for 975fpe. http://www.gunsandammomag.com/ballistics/
For what it's worth, the 10 or the .41 wouldn't be my first choice for bear, even 200# blacks. If I were hunting them, I'd consider the .44mag minimum for the job. If I were to  run afoul of a black bear, 16rds of 10mm 200gr double tap would make me feel a whole lot better!
Keith,
From field positions, I can shoot about a six inch group with my Glocks at 25yds.(On a good day) I would consider that my maximum hunting range. I do slightly better with my S&W mdl 29 and my Ruger Blackhawk in .45LC. Either one would work for hunting deer size game out to 50yds or so (Again, on a good day) in my hands. The slight edge would go to the Ruger due to the slightly longer barrel.
Savage

[Keith L]

Once again I have never shot my Glocks from a rest, and at 25-50 yards I wouldn't consider not using a rest with the 45Colts.  My comparison isn't faiir.  I guess I practice with each gun like I would use them, and each has a different purpose for me.

[Savage]

Keith,
I quit hunting many years ago. Just lost interest. Now I just enjoy shooting! If I were to decide to go back to hunting, I'd use a large bore revolver like my .44 mag or .45 lc. Like you I practice offhand shooting, but would use any support available in the field when hunting. The only time I shoot a handgun from a rest is when sighting in, or checking the sights.
Savage