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Does anyone make an affordable Double rifle?
« on: December 20, 2007, 04:31:00 AM »
Are these firearms still made and are they just older guns?  New to these rifles.  Look very cool!

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Re: Does anyone make an affordable Double rifle?
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2007, 10:33:16 AM »
Save your pennies! Yes their still being made!  I bought a 9.3X74R Chapuis last year and love it. There are alot of different makers and all are spendy compared to a CZ or Remmy. Pedersoli makes a couple of hammer guns of good quality. Not the best but usable. I have one in the 9.3X74R. Can you tell I like this caliber?
 Remmy is importing the  Biakal rifles in O/U and SXS too.
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Re: Does anyone make an affordable Double rifle?
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2007, 02:43:56 PM »
Are these firearms still made and are they just older guns?  New to these rifles.  Look very cool!
Buckfever

  Depends on what "you" call affordable??  The best for the cheapest would probably be a Valmet 412, but it's an 0/U, and maybe you meant S/S??

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Re: Does anyone make an affordable Double rifle?
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2007, 04:56:03 AM »
Side by side has me looking.  I thought this might be the way to go to Africa if they are affordable.  I have a bolt CZ FS in a 9.3x62, scoped.  Am I making any sense?   Buckfever

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Re: Does anyone make an affordable Double rifle?
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2007, 05:47:53 AM »
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are you looking for an O/U or SxS double rifle?

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Re: Does anyone make an affordable Double rifle?
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2007, 11:36:20 AM »
Side by side has me looking.  I thought this might be the way to go to Africa if they are affordable.  I have a bolt CZ FS in a 9.3x62, scoped.  Am I making any sense?   Buckfever

  Well, in a S&S, Chapuis makes the lowest cost "quality" double rifle.  It's the best deal going, these days...

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Re: Does anyone make an affordable Double rifle?
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2007, 01:23:45 PM »
I just checked Chapius for a Double and after I pryed my swallowed tongue out of my throat I have decided that maybe only royalty is to own these fine weapons!   Thanks all for the input the doubles are beautiful but not affordable for a regular guy hunter.    Buckfever

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Re: Does anyone make an affordable Double rifle?
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2007, 01:30:08 PM »
I just checked Chapius for a Double and after I pryed my swallowed tongue out of my throat I have decided that maybe only royalty is to own these fine weapons!   Thanks all for the input the doubles are beautiful but not affordable for a regular guy hunter.    Buckfever

  I'm just wondering, what guns do you own now???

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Re: Does anyone make an affordable Double rifle?
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2007, 05:36:20 PM »
Get rid of the bolt guns and those silly black ones too use that $$$$ to get a double!
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Re: Does anyone make an affordable Double rifle?
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2007, 06:04:46 PM »
If one knew the efforts and labor used to make a good SxS double rifle, it is no wonder that they cost substantially more than bolt rifles.  It is not enough just to make good thin barrels to keep the weight down, it is the regulation for point of impact.  These firearms are finely tuned works of art to have bullets hitting the mark with both barrels not on the same plane.  That isn't done with machined parts just assembled.  It takes a master craftsman and fine gunsmith to individually tune each firearm to regulate bullet placement.  That is why the high cost.  Searcy also makes fine doubles, however the cost is in the tens of thousands of dollars.  A 9.3x62 in a CZ is a most applicable weapon for African Hunting for plains game and even some DG, legal in some areas.  Why not buy a CZ in .416 Rigby for the big rifle for African DG.  Same approximate weight, same balance, same action, same stocking and very reliable on DG.
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Re: Does anyone make an affordable Double rifle?
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2007, 05:19:08 AM »
Gentlemen, the cost of these doubles will probably keep me from owning one but it doesn't change anything about their beauty.  In a guys way they are a piece of art and craftsmen's weapon.  Thanks for all the input, love those African shows which depict the PH with his iron sighted double!

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Re: Does anyone make an affordable Double rifle?
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2007, 09:46:10 AM »
Why not go with a O/U DR?  For shotguns I use the SxS because I like the feel, swing and weight of the SxS. 

For combo guns I like the O/U design and because of this I picked up an O/U DR which is scoped.  For my application I dont require open sights.  ;)

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Re: Does anyone make an affordable Double rifle?
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2007, 11:03:24 PM »
If you want to get your feet wet inexpensively try one of those O/U russian Remmys. For more $$$there are several other options still staying under 2K. Pedersoli SXS are around for 2.5K used. Then the price goes up rapidly.
 DM swears by the Valmet O/U's but I haven't handled them so I cannot say.
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Re: Does anyone make an affordable Double rifle?
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2007, 06:29:25 AM »
Remington is introducing an affordable side-by-side soon. S/S 30-06 and a S/S 45-70 for less than $600.00. Spartan I believe is the manufacturer.
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Re: Does anyone make an affordable Double rifle?
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2008, 12:55:00 AM »
Spartan is a made up name by Remington to sell the Russian products from the Baikal region. Baikal is the name they sell under here in the UK but I notice the Izhevsk mark on some of their products and not on others so am thinking that they source from several factories in the area.

I have not seen in person the doubles sold under the Baikal name here but understand that the O/U is being tested now for an article for the UK magazines and the gunsmith doing the test said it's performing much better than he expected it too. Oh the test rifle is an 30-06.

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Re: Does anyone make an affordable Double rifle?
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2008, 08:07:36 AM »
I recently purchased a Baikal IZH-94 from CDNN sports. It is a .30-06 O/U. I am very pleased with the fit, finish and accuracy. I have heard they are "hit or miss" in the accuracy department, but I seemed to have obtained a good one. It was $292 delivered to my FFL dealer who does not regularly charge me for transfers. I took a chance because I couldn't see how I could go wrong for that price. I know nothing of its long term dependability or durability, but it looks nice (to me), it goes bang when I pull the trigger, and it hits where I aim. I am not sure I would base an African hunt on this rifle, but I do think it is a relatively inexpensive way to get ones feet wet in the double rifle department without selling every other gun you have or taking out a mortgage.

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Re: Does anyone make an affordable Double rifle?
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2008, 03:29:12 PM »
I was at a gun shop here in VIRGINIA today and saw a REMINGTON SXS in 30-06 new for $889.00
Not a bad looking gun, a little plain but for the price what would you exspect!

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Re: Does anyone make an affordable Double rifle?
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2008, 03:52:27 PM »
i've never seen "affordable" and "double rifle" used in the sane sentence before. LOL
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Re: Does anyone make an affordable Double rifle?
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2008, 01:10:57 PM »
   Double rifles, since I build them this is one of my favorite topics!!!   I also build bolt guns and the difference in labor is tremendous, a bolt dangerous game rifle with a wood stock (we ork right from the stock blank) will take me 150 hours or more with depending on options.   Doubles on the other hand will run over 300 hours again depending on options.   Alot of the time is in the metal work and regulating the rifle.  When regulatingg you have to shoot the rifle your self, you can not use a shooting machine.   The rifle must be free to recoil as it will when held and fired.   The right barrel will try to recoil up and rotate to the right and the left the oppisite.    You go out to your range, fire two shoots from each barrel using a "standing bench" and go back into te shop and un clamp/ un solder te whole mess, take measurements adjust the barrels clamp and solder it all up and try again.
    I actually find this hole process very enjoyable however it drives my wife crazy as this process usually ends up being repeated many times, like ten or more.    You want to get the barrels to converge into a composit group of around 2" or less t 75 to 100 yards.
    If you want to talk more about what is involved in building these beasts let me know.    You can contact me through my web site customguns.us or by phone 207-938-3595
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Re: Does anyone make an affordable Double rifle?
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2008, 05:49:17 PM »
Judson,Please, email me pictures of your work?  bigben1956@verizon.net
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