I was a bit surprised to even hit it, It was standing and i aimed about 3 inches over its head, I got to get the manual out and look at bullet drop. my manual dosnt list lil gun for the lighter bullets and I dont have a chrono, "around" what fps are you guys handi hornets shooting with the 35 grn v-max and 13 grns lil gun? I believe they are slower than the factory 35 grn loads as they hit about 2 inches lower.