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BPC bullets in front stuffers?
« on: April 29, 2007, 02:00:31 PM »
For some back ground when I got my .32 Crockett it came with some Maxi hunters and another type of conical all weigh in at about 106 grains unlubed. Both shoot decently but I have a real limited supply and I cant find any .32 conicals on line nor any molds for such with out having one custom made. So I was looking on line and found bullets for the 32-20 at about 100grn I can get them in 20-1 lead sized at .311. Can I shoot these with a round ball patch to take up the slack? Has anyone done something similar to this in one of their guns?

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Re: BPC bullets in front stuffers?
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2007, 03:48:30 PM »
I haven't shot anything but round balls in mine but i found some meister .323 ( 32-40)bullets in midway's catalog  but they weigh 170 grains and they are hard cast. maybe you could try paper patching the 311 bullets .or if you are into casting midway has a lee mould for the 8 mm that is.324 and weighs 175 grains .I don't know how the crockett would stablize these bullets though
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Re: BPC bullets in front stuffers?
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2007, 04:20:30 PM »
Yeah I think the 32-40 bullets would be way to heavy for the twist (1 in 48). the ballets are listed at 70grn so I dont think any thing in the 90-115 range would be a problem. You mentioned paper patching how is this done I have never done it but wouldn't mind trying it out.
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Re: BPC bullets in front stuffers?
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2007, 06:51:52 PM »
There was an 80 grain high velocity bullet loaded in .32-20, but I think it might have been jacketed.  :-\
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Re: BPC bullets in front stuffers?
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2007, 05:51:43 AM »
Here are a couple of Paper Patch links.

http://members.shaw.ca/bobschewe/

http://www.iastate.edu/~codi/PPB/PPB.html

http://www.lrml.org/technical/ammunition/patching.htm

You can also load conicals with a Chase patch, which is two (or sometimes three) strips of paper layed on the muzzle, at angles to each other, the conical is pressed in, the excess paper removed and the lead rammed home..

For conical molds, have you checked with the Log Cabin Shoppe in Lodi, Ohio or DGW in Tenn?
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Re: BPC bullets in front stuffers?
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2007, 01:21:53 PM »
Hey thanks for the info that is exactly what I was looking for. Do you have any contact info for these company's  Log Cabin Shoppe in Lodi, Ohio or DGW in Tenn?
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Re: BPC bullets in front stuffers?
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2007, 03:06:09 PM »
dgw or Dixie Gun Works web addy is www.dixiegunworks.com
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Re: BPC bullets in front stuffers?
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2007, 03:10:48 PM »
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Re: BPC bullets in front stuffers?
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2007, 10:26:05 AM »
Thanks for the links Gents.

Last question for the Chase patch what would be a good paper thickness/ paper type to use for this.
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Re: BPC bullets in front stuffers?
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2007, 12:06:25 AM »
Lee used to manufacture a 120 gr. round nose for the 32-20 and it mikes .313 out of my mold cast from Lyman # 2 Alloy.  RCBS also makes, or used to, a semi-wadcutter for the 32-20 and it weighs 98-100 grs. from my mold.  It comes from the mold at .312 again cast with Lyman # 2 alloy.  I would expect a pure lead bullet from either mold to be .001-.002 smaller.  Might check into those. 

I can personally attest to the effectiveness of the RCBS bullet on properly sized game for the 32-20 from a Mod. 92 Winchester and a 1st generation SAA.  Great bullet.

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Re: Chase patch
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2007, 04:55:27 AM »
The idea of the patch is twofold.

1   Fill the rifling, prevent blowby and impart a stabilizing spin to the bullet.

2   Prevent lead from touching the bore.

As you can tell they are not mutually inclusive. 

The answer is to try different thicknesses until your target tells you what is proper for your rifle.  Measure the bullet diameter with a micrometer.  Slug the bore of your rifle and measure the slug.  Ideally the difference will be twice the thickness of the patch you need.  It doesn't always work out that way.

With a Chase patch you are going to get some over lapping of the patch so it will be thicker where it laps.  The object is to balance the patch with the lead and the load to produce the accuracy you feel is necessary.  Minute of angle or minute of 5 gallon pail, it is up to you.

I guess this is a bit of rambling with not a lot of specific answers but once you get into the world of reloading and paper patching it is all about trying it out.

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Re: BPC bullets in front stuffers?
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2007, 08:20:06 AM »
StrawHat thanks for the info when I get a chance to get supplies and get to the range I will let you all know how it works out.
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Re: BPC bullets in front stuffers?
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2007, 02:24:14 AM »
hey slug you ever try the paper patch in that 32 yet would like to know how it came out. did you slug the crockett and find the bore dia. because if you paper patch it will have to slip fit .it will bump up to groove dia. when fired if you cast from pure lead.if the chase patch does not  work then you might try two wrap of paper not real easy on a bullet that small but can be done
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Re: BPC bullets in front stuffers?
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2007, 06:26:02 PM »
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no I havent had a chance to get to it yet between getting ready for a pig hunt next week and Uncle Sam sent me out to the field last week there just havent been enough hours in the day this month. But as soon as I can sit down and work with her I will let you all know how it is going.
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