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Hablas Espanol?
« on: May 15, 2007, 09:43:02 AM »

 This is an actual INTERVIEW with an illegal Mexican at a
 protest march in Texas.  

 Below is a good example of a discussion with a master of
 circular logic. Don't be logical, don't respect the truth or
 your adversary, just say what you think makes a new case
 when the previous case gets too difficult to defend. *  * *
 * *
 On the streets of downtown Houston, May 1, 2006. Jim Moore
 reporting for a Houston TV station: Jim: Juan, I see that
 you and thousands of other protesters are marching in the
 streets to demonstrate for your cause. Exactly what is your
 cause and what do you expect to accomplish by this protest?
 *  * *
 * *
 Juan: We want our rights. We will show you how powerful we
 are. We will bring Houston to its knees!  *
 * *
 * *
 Jim: What rights? *
 * *
 * *
 Juan: Our right to live here...legally. Our right to get all
 the benefits you get. *  * *
 * *
 Jim: When did you come to the United States? *
 * *
 * *
 Juan: Six years ago. I crossed over the border at night with
 seven other friends. *  * *
 * *
 Jim: Why did you come? *
 * *
 * *
 Juan: For work. I can earn as much in a month as I could in
 a year in Mexico. Besides, I get free health care, our
 Mexican children can go to school free, if I lose my job I
 will get welfare, and someday I will have the Social
 Security. Nothing like that in Mexico! *  * *
 * *
 Jim: Did you feel badly about breaking our immigration laws
 when you came? *  * *
 * *
 Juan: No! Why should I feel bad? I have a right to be here.
 I have a right to amnesty. I paid lots of money for my
 Social Security and Green Cards.*  * *
 * *
 Jim: How did you acquire those documents? *
 * *
 * *
 Juan: From a guy in Dallas. He charged me a lot of money
 too. *  * *
 * *
 Jim: Did you know that those documents were forged?
 *
 * *
 * *
 Juan: It is of no matter. I have a right to be here and
 work. *  * *
 * *
 Jim: What is the "right" you speak of? *
 * *
 * *
 Juan: The right of all Aliens. It is found in your
 Constitution. Read it! *  * *
 * *
 Jim: I have read it, but I do not remember it saying
 anything about rights for Aliens. *  * *
 * *
 Juan: It is in that part where it says that all men have
 Alien rights, like the right to pursue happiness. I wasn't
 happy in Mexico, so I came here.*  * *
 * *
 Jim: I think you are referring to the Declaration of
 Independence and that document speaks to unalienable rights
 .. Not Alien rights.*  * *
 * *
 Juan: Whatever. *
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 * *
 Jim: Since you are demanding to become an American citizen,
 why then are you carrying a Mexican Flag? *  * *
 * *
 Juan: Because I am Mexican. *
 * *
 * *
 Jim: But you said you want to be given amnesty . To become
 a US citizen.*  * *
 * *
 Juan: No. This is not what we want. This is our country, a
 part of Mexico that you Gringos stole from us. We want it
 returned to its rightful owner.*  * *
 * *
 Jim: Juan, you are standing in Texas. After wining the war
 with Mexico, Texas became a Republic, and later Texans voted
 to join the USA. It was not stolen from Mexico.*  * *
 * *
 Juan: That is a Gringo lie. Texas was stolen. So was
 California, New Mexico and Arizona. It is just like all the
 other stuff you Gringos steal, like oil and babies. You are
 a country of thieves.*  * *
 * *
 Jim: Babies? You think we steal babies? *
 * *
 * *
 Juan: Sure. Like from Korea and Vietnam and China. I see
 them all over the place. You let all these foreigners in,
 but try to keep us Mexicans out. How is this fair? *  * *
 * *
 Jim: So, you really don't want to become an American citizen
 then. *  * *
 * *
 Juan: I just want my rights! Everyone has a right to live,
 work, and speak their native language wherever and whenever
 they please. That's another thing we demand. All signs and
 official documents should be in Spanish.Teachers must teach
 in Spanish. Soon, more people here in Houston will speak
 Spanish than English. It is our right!  * *
 * *
 Jim: If I were to cross over the border into Mexico without
 proper documentation, what rights would I have there? *  * *
 * *
 Juan: None. You would probably go to jail, but that's
 different. *  * *
 * *
 Jim: How is it different? You said everyone has the right to
 live wherever they please. *  * *
 * *
 Juan: You Gringos are a bunch of land grabbing thieves. Now
 you want Mexico too? Mexico has its rights. You Gringos have
 no rights in Mexico. Why would you want to go there anyway?
 There is no free medical service, schools, or welfare there
 for foreigners such as you. You cannot even own land in my
 country. Stay in the country of your birth. * *
 * *
 Jim: I can see that there is no way that we can agree on
 this issue. Thank you for your comments. *  * *
 * *
 Juan: Viva Mexico! *

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Re: Hablas Espanol?
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2007, 10:00:44 AM »
An't that the truth , they sneak in like a theif and expect us to except their way of life no questions asked . BS - take their butts back across the border and ASK if we will be willing to let them become AMERICANS , DO NOT TELL US THAT WE HAVE TO !!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2007, 11:15:34 AM »
I'm still not a happy camper that we have to press 1 for English.  >:(
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2007, 11:36:57 AM »
Darn, don't you'all read the Hispanic columnists in the newspapers? According to them (the two my local paper carries) they all learn English real fast so we don't have anything to worry about. If that is the case why is it that every thing I see has an English and Spanish version printed on it?

Something that really upsets me. When I leave the grocery store in the little town I live close to and I read the sign on the door it says in large letters "Gracias" and in small letters under it is "Thank You". One of the three brothers who own it lives across the road from me and is a nice guy as are his brothers. He says when that is the majority of your customers that is who you have to be nice to. I would have to drive about 50 miles to buy groceries and not have to see that sign.

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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2007, 04:33:08 PM »
I'm fed up with these invaders demanding their rights, THEY HAVE NONE. They don't want to be Americans, they only want the perks of living here. They want to set up their own little tijuanas and go yabba dabba dooooooo all day. This is AMERICA, we speak ENGLISH here. Learn it, speak it, or GET OUT. I work for walmart, they are remodeling. Tried to hire 80 people, couldn't get half that, most of the crew is from other stores. The mexicans don't want it, so that dispells the crap about them taking jobs nobody else wants, and theres plenty of them around here. Makes me sick to see signs in spanish too. If they really IMMIGRATE legally, learn and speak English, and adapt, I say, welcome. All law enforcement should be given the power to arrest these criminals and have them deported. These scum laugh at our laws, and shame all of the REAL immigrants who have become citizens by obeying the laws and following the rules. Round em up, ship em out. Catch and release doesn't work, they keep coming back. Punishment should be so harsh that their own crappy country will look good to them. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2007, 04:59:26 PM »
  And to think coming up is a vote in congress to make these filthy criminals citizens. Makes me wanna puke. Worst part is, is that both the commucrats and repubs are supporting it. What are we to do? Her in the people republic of Minnesota we have tons of these criminals running around. The sheriff catches them and the INS says release them.

  At our county fair last year I was confronted by a hispanic person for wearing a Tshirt that read " Welcome to America now speak english". He said my shirt was racist and offensive. My reply was simply. "You could read this then you are not the problem".
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Re: Hablas Espanol?
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2007, 01:47:44 AM »
              Illegal Mexicans  (and) others......... >:( 
     
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2007, 01:52:25 AM »
  Our congress is getting ready to try a double=cross of it's citizens...both native born and LEGALLY naturalized..

   Watch your own congressman and if he/she tries the XX...throw them out at next election.
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Re: Hablas Espanol?
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2007, 03:25:01 AM »
TM7. Until America and the news media stops referring to these criminals as immigrants, as you just did,  and calls them what they are, we will have this problem. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2007, 03:55:02 AM »
I don't remember which politician it was (I think he was a Republican) that said, we don't want to get rid of all of them, just the ones who have committed a crime.  That's fine with me, because in my book, that is all of them.  It is still a crime to enter this country illegally--right?
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Re: Hablas Espanol?
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2007, 04:08:05 AM »
I don't remember which politician it was (I think he was a Republican) that said, we don't want to get rid of all of them, just the ones who have committed a crime.  That's fine with me, because in my book, that is all of them.  It is still a crime to enter this country illegally--right?

That's correct, we have something like over 12 million that has committed a crime in our country with no end in sight. Our whimps in Washington are looking the other way. They are supposed to be up there protecting our Constitutional Rights, but it looks like they're up there protecting their job and showing us how dumb they are.
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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2007, 04:11:32 AM »
One way to curb illegal entrance from Mexico is for the US military to establish a 100 ft bufferzone at the border turned into a mine field. ;D

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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2007, 04:38:17 PM »
We can grip, moan, and complain for the rest of the year, but if don't ACT, then we can only blame ourselves for the fate of this country.  I am one, but I make it a point to write or call my congressman/senator often to express my views on our immigration laws.  Some ask, "what good does it do."  My response, "what harm does it do, and it must be working to some degree because the laws haven't been changed YET. 

If you are truly opposed to illegal immigration, an think it is time to rid America of ALL illegal aliens, then do your part.  Call or write and let your elected officials know your feelings.  Go to NUMBERSUSA, and sign up, they will write the messages for you, and you can fax them through their operation.

If you are not willing to act, then don't complain when told to "press one for English..........."

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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2007, 03:25:02 AM »
TM7. I don't agree with that either. Call em what they are, illegals, criminals, invaders. These people have almost bankrupted many hospitols in the border states, we all pay for that. Our welfare system is over run with them. Illegals should not get welfare, food stamps, schooling, SSI, NOTHING, except a 1 way ticket to where they came from. They are in our schools and universities and the schools turn a blind eye to them and give them the same priveleges as Americans and others who have followed the rules to be here. They laugh at us and scoff at our laws. Round em up, ship em out, jail em at hard labor if they come back. We have to start penalizing these people instead of slapping them on the wrist and turning them loose. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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Re: Hablas Espanol?
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2007, 04:05:17 AM »
I feel the same. There's a world of difference between a migrant worker and an illegal alien. We get migrant's come to this country, get themselves a Green Card and work on a temporary basis. Then we get illegal aliens that skips that process and just invades us, buys a fake Social Security card, a fake Green Card and a fake drivers license. If you are involved in a fender bender or serious wreck with one of them they won't have insurance, the police will not arrest them and you will be left with your insurance paying for your vehicle's damage. Then your insurance rate will increase. Follow one of those characters down the road a piece and you will see them throwing all kinds of garbage out of their car and truck window, they could care less as they don't have any appreciation for this country at all. Meet one on a two lane road and you will have to move to the right as they have a bad habit of driving on top of the yellow center line.

Please do not refer to somebody that illegally sneaked into our country as what they are not. When you do, you're just doing what they want.

What we need to do is what somebody else mentioned on here and that is to create a DMZ along the southern border, stock it with mine fields and plenty of warning signs. That would stop the ILLEGAL traffic. Then we could use our Border Patrol agents to watch for the tunnel system that is constantly being dug underneath our border full time.
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« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2007, 05:14:26 PM »
Gentlemen, welcome to Los Estados Unidos!! :o
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« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2007, 05:48:42 PM »
Hey Dusty, does that translate to Socialist States of Mexico? If so, that about says it all, don't it?
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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2007, 01:50:46 AM »
Because of Mexican gun control, you'll never see this happen. If half of the illegals in this country went back to Mexico and did as much protesting as what they do here, they could change the govt. But, because only the military(??) and police, are allowed, protesters are shot and or put into jail. What they need in Mexico is another revolution. The government there is so corrupt, gun control so tight, it's easier to bail out and come to this country. Even our jails look good to them. Cloth's, 3 hots and a cot, they don't have that on the streets of Mexico.(except in Maricopo county)Didn't spell that right, but you know where I mean.We keep trying peace, it usually doesn't work!!Remember(12/7/41)(9/11/01) gypsyman
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« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2007, 05:42:41 PM »
gypsyman.  There is another element today even stronger than the Mexican Army or Police.  The drug cartels there run the country for the most part.  I understand the government is attempting to crack down on the dealers, but they are still very strong, have a large number of the police and Army in their pockets, and are killing Army officers and Police daily.

Mexico is in a sad state because the drug dealers are armed much better than either the Police or Army.

Strange, but at gun shows in this part of the country I have witnessed many, many, what I suspect to be illegals, attempting to buy guns.  They only want to buy from the guys that don't require "papers."  I have often wondered, are these guns going back to Mexico for the drug dealers, or are they for the illegal use if America ever decides to rid itself of this scum?

For everyone that has not called or written their Senator, you need to do it first thing Monday morning, or go to your search engine (now) and locate your Senator, click on the "Contact Me" icon, and send them an e-mail expressing your views on the illegals, their marches, and any form of amnesty.  In a recent communication from Roy Beck of NUMBERSUSA this has been working and may have possibly prevent passage of the Kennedy amnesty last week. If we keep their phone lines, fax machines, and computers busy with our messages. maybe they will listen.

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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2007, 01:02:59 PM »
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