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Offline singleVI

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158grain MagTech
« on: June 01, 2007, 12:32:42 PM »
I shot some 158 grain SJSP MagTechs today and I didn't find one that expanded. The lead tip got flattened and that's about it. No Expansion. I thought MagTech ammo was supposed to be Okay but now I'm not sure. Anyone else notice this? The velocity on the back of the box says 1240 from a 4" barrel, surly thatd be enough V to make them expand?

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Re: 158grain MagTech
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2007, 06:34:26 PM »
What were you shooting them into?

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Re: 158grain MagTech
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2007, 06:41:01 AM »
A stack of soggy National-Geographic about 2 feet long.  I have some pictures of the Fusions vs the MagTech

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Re: 158grain MagTech
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2007, 03:40:49 AM »
The Mag tech , bullet on the left, is a lead semi wad cutter . I have shot a lot of different factory loads and reloads over my 40+ years of shooting and reloading and never really got much expansion from a lead semi wad cutter. Essentially they , semi wad cutters , are designed to cut a caliber sized hole with their square edges. The bullet would have to be a reasonably hard lead bullet to shoot 1200+ out of a 4" 357 and not lead. Hollow points are made to expand and I guess soft points to a degree will expand , but usually not at pistol velocities. Semi wad cutter bullets are usually accurate and effective for penetration but poor expander . 

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Re: 158grain MagTech
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2007, 08:30:25 AM »
It looks(from your picture) like you're getting about the normal performance from the Mag-Tech 158g SP's. I doubt seriously if you're getting the advertised velocity from that revolver. I'd guess it's closer to 1150 fps at the muzzle. If you could shoot it over a chrono, you could know for sure.

Even though you're not seeing the "actual" degree of expansion when looking at those bullets, it's the "act" of expanding that plays a big part of terminal performance. As the nose expands, it transfers a lot of energy to the animals vitals. With no expansion, you're left with a very small frontal area, and more of a clean "practice arrow" type wound channel. Even though your SP's here don't look too impressive compared to the HP's, they've expanded to the point of having a larger than caliber frontal area, which will leave a lot more destructive wound channel aiding in a quick kill.

Don't get hung up on extreme expansion with the 357 magnum if you're intending on hunting deer sized game with it. The 357 shines best with a bullet weight/design, and velocity level that gives you "just enough" expansion to open the bullet noses up to caliber, or just over caliber sized on a solid facing shoulder hit, and still retain enough integrity/velocity to drive the remainder of the way through the animals chest, preferably exiting the off side. That Mag-Tech 158g SP ammo will serve you well as long as you make good clean vital chest shots on anything up to deer sized game.   

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Re: 158grain MagTech
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2007, 05:48:42 PM »
Actually, the SWC on the left is one of my handloads, it just happened to be in the picture. I know that any expansion is going to make a bigger wound channel etc. I just wasnt impressed with how little the MTs expanded. I even fired them into the stack from less than a yard away. I believe the more slightly deformed MagTech was fired from that close, but its hard to tell since it looks so much like the round fired into it from 25 yards.