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Offline Lotec

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My First Post
« on: June 28, 2007, 01:06:20 PM »
Hello everyone! I normally don't have to much to say but I sure like to read (silent listening ) and I have enjoyed learning from this forum. I'm an older gent that has spent many hours / years with "American Classic" firearms in hand.  My real loves are fine single shots and leverguns.  I did not grow up with these fancy computers, heck, I didn't own one until my sons bought this one for me two Christmas' ago. Please bare with me. I'm think that I'm doing the best I can...
I enjoy getting out and about and stopping at any place that I feel the potential of being able to find older firearms.
This brings me to the real point of this post:
Today I picked up a Marlin 336 in 35 Remington caliber, 1957 vintage. I would say that it is at least 75-80% condition. The wood is a very nice grained walnut. The down side is that it has a cheap scope with a see through mount ( which is coming off shortly )
and a red rubber recoil pad. YUK! Thank God this recoil pad is just an add on. The stock has not been shortened. These items just don't fit my stereotype of a vintage levergun. I'm satisfied with the purchase and a $300.00 price tag. I'm in need of a hard rubber butt plate but so far I haven't been able to locate one. Can anyone point me in the right direction for obtaining one? I sure would appreciate it!
BTW While searching for a butt plate in a small dusty out of the way gun shop, I came across a Marlin 336 in 32 Winchester Special caliber.
 It's in dandy shape but with a missing piece out of it's butt plate. The man is asking $260.00 for it. What's the deal with this 32 Winchester Special ? I didn't know that Marlin ever chambered this caliber. Any comments ? Should I grab it up ? Thanks !
Your Servant DUST
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Offline Jerry Lester

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Re: My First Post
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2007, 05:41:01 PM »
Can't help you with your questions, but welcome aboard! You'll enjoy this forum, as well as the other ones here on Graybeards.
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2007, 01:08:21 AM »
Dust Collector, welcome aboard. You might check www.e-gunparts.com/ for butt plates. I've found them at gun shows in my area. A gentlemen or two has all kinds of these little items. they may have 'character' bot are entirely serviceable. You should have the hole spacing dimension with you as they vary.
The 32 Win Spcl is a very desirable rifle for cast bullet shooting, but in the case of a Marlin could very well have a .318" groove diameter. This can lead to accuracy problems. The correct groove diameter is .321". Hand loading cast bullets can over come this if you get further into this fun thing called shooting.
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2007, 01:25:26 AM »
Welcome Dust. My Blue Book shows that the 32 Spl in the older 336 lever was disc. in 1962. Not to much mention about the 32 Spl after the 60's. A 336C carbine was made till 1983 in all 3 calibers. Marlin made alot of different variation of the 336. My Dad had a old 336 in a 30-30 that he bought around 1950. We still have it in the family. This thing shoots like crazy. The only problem I had with the Marlin 336 it was a little bit heavier than the Win 94. But the 336 could be mounted with a scope much easier than the 94 ( side mount ). From all the 336's & 94's I've shot & reloaded for the 336 seems to be more accurate. ( Boy I know I shouldn't have said that.) Sorry Winchester guys. :'( ;D
About the butt plate. Is it a factory one you need? I may have one in my box of gun stuff.
As for the value of the used 32 Spl. it depends on the Model. They also made the 336 in a 219 Zipper from 1955-1960.
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2007, 02:59:41 AM »
The Dust Collector:
   Welcome aboard.
      As far as the .32win Spl goes .  Snatch that baby up! Clean it up. Fix it up. What ever and enjoy a great
      gun/cal.  IMO.
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2007, 04:09:57 AM »
Yes, get the 32.  If anything, it will help round out the collection you have started.  Always looking for a 32 Special, just for the heck of it.
Ballistically, it's probably not any better than the 30-30.  But it is better, just because it's NOT a 30-30.  It's different!
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2007, 10:36:05 AM »
Most any gunsmith who's been in business for any length of time will have piles of old butt plates laying around that have been taken off when pads were installed. If you know of any in your area ask.
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2007, 11:01:15 AM »
Dust Collector,

Welcome aboard the greatest gun discussion site on the net! I would have to say that the .32 is a bargain at that price. I used to see them all the time up in Maine and they were always more expensive than that and sometimes not in very good shape. I have heard it is a great brush gun at shorter ranges much like the .30-30.

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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2007, 12:22:58 PM »
D C,

I second what they said,

1. WELCOME

2. If you have the $ get that .32

3. Check with a local gunsmith for a "take off" butt plate.
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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2007, 01:47:40 PM »
I thank all of you for the kind comments and information.  FYI  I picked up that 336 Marlin in 32 Winchester Special. I'm glad now that I did. I should of right away. You folks convinced me that it was the right thing to do !
Your Servant   DUST
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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2007, 06:21:27 PM »
32 Winchester Special - I have one in the Winchester 94.  The 32 Special is similar in power and performance to the 30-30 Win.  If you reload, it is a charmer much like loading the 30-30.

Several years ago, I loaded mine with 10 grains of IMR 4227 behind a 170 grain Oregon Trail Cast Bullet.  With the sights raised all the way up and a piece of matchbook cardboard added under the rear sight, I could hit silhouette Turkeys out to 150 meters (165 yards).   I only mention this loading for insight to the flexibility of the cartridge.

If you have 30-30 brass to spare, you can simply run them through your 32 Win Special sizing die and it will expand the neck to the proper size.  Load it up and fire it.  You will have 32 Win Spec brass ready to go.

Harold Clark
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