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Making hardware the long and hot...but fun way!
« on: August 16, 2007, 07:27:04 PM »
I'm making lots of progress on the Sikh standing mortar. I got the wrought iron hardware shaped tonight to go over the cheeks. I used 3.75" x 3/8" wrought iron from some old wagon wheels from the 1800's. I first made a small piece from 16ga steel strip and bent it to the proper contour, then marked it. I straightened it out then transfered the length to the wheel and cut all my pieces. I already had made some rings for a 2 1/4" dia project that got scrapped, so the trunnion retainer section was pretty easy...just cut them in half and bend in slightly!

Here's some neat pics from the process
 Fist is step one...heating the section. It took 30 minutes to shape the first one since I couldn't fit the whole thing in the small forge and I didn't feel like firing up the big one (way to hot out for that!). I learned on the second one that if I heat one end, then turn it around and heat the other end, it will heat the center to red faster and bends perfect in only two heats! Anyway...on to the pics. The first is just a pic of the rear of my shop. That's about 300 lbs of assorted wrought sections staked in front of 2300 lbs of red iron oxide (for a Viking smelting project). The big 50" wheels are what I used for this. The second pic is heating the section, then curving the section. Getting a smooth curve when only using a vise takes a bit of practice...especially on big hunks of steel like this. You have to push into it as well as bending down...all the while taking care not to bump the red glowing stuff! ;)




Next comes more heating, more bending, a little swearing, then a little hammering. I do the bends first, then hammer the ends straight/flat, then go back and tweak the bends if needed when it is down to about 700-800*F (black, but vey hot and still malleable).







Here they are laying next to a cheek ready to be welded up. Wrought iron welds up nicely. I guess if I really wanted to go at it, I'd forge weld it. Hah...I'll pass on that one.:o




Here's the barrel finished now. I feel like a giddy schoolgirl everytime I walk out and see it sitting in the shop floor! I'm dying to get the carraige finished. I didn't have a can of powder handy, so I used a spraypaint can. Click on the first one for the big pic.



I could have just used some steel strip from the store, but I like using the wrought iron and the forges. I collect wrought iron for the silica patterning in it. It makes great knife fittings when etched. This wrought has very little figuring. Every now and then you get refined wrought in wheels. It's great stuff for forging!
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Re: Making hardware the long and hot...but fun way!
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2007, 12:30:01 PM »
Here they are welded up. I primed the cheeks as well as painted one of the ironworks red. It still needs the upper clamp section made. I'll do that this evening after looking at a few examples to figure out how I want to do it. The carraige will eventually be painted a light blue, but the grey primer looks fairly close. I think the red ironwork on the light blue (what's on the original) will look neat. I was considering a winter green like what was on another one, but will probably stick with blue.



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Re: Making hardware the long and hot...but fun way!
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2007, 12:43:33 PM »
Great pix Don!

Good to see the setups you have for getting it done.

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Re: Making hardware the long and hot...but fun way!
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2007, 01:53:43 PM »
that's coming along great!!! can't wait to see it finished. I about passed out, looking at the heat waves coming from the forge. been so hot here in Virginia, that i haven't been in my shop for a month and a half.
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Re: Making hardware the long and hot...but fun way!
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2007, 02:27:49 PM »
I'm beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel. I'm dreading doing the wheels...yet looking forward to the challenge all at the same time.:D

We were at 103 -105 the first half of the week. In the fourth pic, the black cylinder with the crap stacked on it is a large forge. That one will take the shop temp up to 130*! The little one gets up about the same, but only directly in front. It's rained now with the remnants of Arron the tropical storm passing and dropped down in the upper 80's. I took advantage of it with a bit of forgework. Now instead of baking, I drown in humidity! Hah! :D
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Re: Making hardware the long and hot...but fun way!
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2007, 02:41:53 PM »
Hey Don, great job! It is pretty hard to find real wrought iron anymore, I'm glad you have some and couldn't think of a better way to reuse it. Look forward to watching your progress.  Tracy

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Re: Making hardware the long and hot...but fun way!
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2007, 12:15:53 AM »
Cool (Yet hot) work!

I love Blacksmithing and do a bit myself in my home shop. You have a nice setup there.

I'd like to make a suggestion though - You might think about using a bit more appropriate PPE (Personal Protective Equipment) when doing such work.

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Re: Making hardware the long and hot...but fun way!
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2007, 05:30:30 AM »
This is a HOT  thread ., Thanks for posting this one Don Krag . I am enjoying in alot.., that's a big mortar !

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Re: Making hardware the long and hot...but fun way!
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2007, 07:42:20 AM »
....Eye patches may have been trendy at some time in the past, but not so much these days...

I have quite a bit of PPE for all sorts of situations. I have to admit, for heating and bending large objects, I generally only wear gloves unless it's something with a lot of slag. For all hammering, casting, forge welding, I use a leather smock, wrap around safety glasses and long pants and ear muffs if needed.  I have some nice IR/UV blocking glasses for forge welding and steel melting as well as various masks/filters for dust/chemicals...even tyvek suits and level B suits...but those don't get used much. ;)

Most of these pics (and many on my site) were actually staged after I had already finished the parts, since I had to wait for my wife to finish watching her show and come out to the shop with the camera. ;)
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Re: Making hardware the long and hot...but fun way!
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2007, 08:05:19 AM »
     Don,   We were beginning to think you had fallen off the edge of Texas during one of your ramblings!  Glad to see that is not so and that you are back.  Mike and I both agree that your tube has exactly the right look for a mortar, powerful and menacing.  Thanks for posting such informative pics.  We can see the carriage is progressing nicely.  On our west coast trip two weeks ago we met a gentleman who could probably give you a few tips to help you with the wheel-making task.  We talked with Peter Hoyt, owner of Jefferson Armory in Phoenix, Oregon.  He makes very high quality carriages and does a very nice job on dished artillery wheels.  He is on the GBO maker's  list on this board.  Can't wait to see flames and smoke issue forth from the infernal maw of that beast!! :o :o

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Re: Making hardware the long and hot...but fun way!
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2007, 12:48:50 PM »
I've been working on-site projects on a couple superfund sites in central NV and northern AZ. Managing the radiation aspects of a 8000 acre pit mine is pretty close to dropping off the face of Texas! Hah. I only had intermittent internet access..if any at all for half of July and the first part of August! I was going into withdrawals. Actually, It was a nice trip towards the end. I picked up lots of wrought iron and stacked my suitcase full. I had to put my clothes in a paper bag and load them as carry-on due to the weight. You know...things are magically lighter for an airplane if they are in carry-on as opposed to checked luggage. ::)

I got lots of pics of wheels and wagons while up there. I drove through Virginia City on the way back to the airport and got lots of pics there too. I'll be back up there in Oct when they have a CW re-enactment at Fort McHenry. I'll have a trailer then! The NV site would be great for cannon fire. Thousand acres of gently sloping flat gravel with 800' birms of gravel as a backstop in several spots. I'm guessing the EPA would be a little upset if I showed up with a cannon in tow, though. ;D

I'll check out the Jefferson site and see what they have. There's a wheelwright's place down here in Gonzales, TX. I'll probably buy the spokes from him. I'm working with some guys in the Texas 7th who built several howitzer carriages. I'll be building everything but the spokes myself...maybe. I should have the rest of the carriage done in a couple weeks, if the rain lets up enough. Guess it depends where Dean makes landfall. I'm hosting a big medieval armourmaking shin-dig next weekend. I traded a knife for some powder last week, so we'll be doing a little smoke & fire making with it then! I have a couple new tiller-gonnes as well that need shoot'n.
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