Author Topic: Rust on trigger pins (Read 514 times)

bearfat · « **on:** July 23, 2007, 05:20:27 AM »

Ok if you found this what would you do and how far would you strip it down?

I looked at the trigger sticky and I would prefer to not take the whole trigger group out. I'm wondering if I just partially drift the pins over (one at a time) just enough to q-tip around the mouth of the pin hole and spray WD-40 heavily might be enough?

I had put FLITZ on this gun and left it in the cabin the past two months in a safe and was surprised to find the rust.

When I pull the hammer back and look down in there with a flash light the trigger group and springs look ok but the receiver walls look so so.

I colored the pins red, yellow, and green in case you want to make a specific reference to a pin so I know which one you are talking about.

Is there a good oil in spray form that will stop this from happening deep down inside where I can't reach?

quickdtoo · « **Reply #1 on:** July 23, 2007, 05:42:04 AM »

I'd clean it up with #0000 steel wool and gun oil, you can knock the pins out to the left a little without removing them to clean up the right side, but if the left side has rust, the pins can't be pushed to the right as they're splined on the left side.

Tim

http://www.thegunzone.com/rust.html

cwlongshot · « **Reply #2 on:** July 23, 2007, 11:51:07 AM »

Here is a tip I learned a ways back. Take a penny (Old real copper penny) with the edge forcefully scrape off the rust. This will leave some of the copper as it is softer than the steel but stronger than the rust. It will fill the scraps with the copper and when wiped with a oil rag leaves the rust spot invisible.

It will be harder in this case as its not flat. But I imagine you could knock the pins in or out to facilitate the work.

Also WD40 is bottom of the barrel. its big claim to fame is as a water dispersant and cleaner of crayon from walls. NOT a good rust inhibitor! Do you self a favor and buy a good gun oil.

CW

Grizz_ · « **Reply #3 on:** July 23, 2007, 03:11:06 PM »

Well, I have about 25 years experience using WD-40 on my guns in SE Alaska, one of the harsher environments. We always spray our guns down with it, and put lots of it in the barrels. My gun barrels don't have a single spot in them, and the rust that appears here and there happened when there wasn't WD-40 on them, it evaporates.

But for a quick end-of-day reliable treatment I don't know how you can beat.

True, this isn't on topic because the rust appeared in storage. But it's certainly good to know what it is good for..,

~Ace~ · « **Reply #4 on:** July 23, 2007, 03:27:13 PM »

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Also WD40 is bottom of the barrel. its big claim to fame is as a water dispersant and cleaner of crayon from walls. NOT a good rust inhibitor! Do you self a favor and buy a good gun oil.

+1 I agree 100 % it has NO place around my guns

quickdtoo · « **Reply #5 on:** July 23, 2007, 03:27:58 PM »

WD40 continually gets a bad rap from folks who probably haven't used it much and just pass on the same bad info. I've never had a problem with it either and the Gun Zone test show it to be superior to several supposedly "good" gun oils that failed their tests, both the long and short term.

Tim

http://www.thegunzone.com/rust.html

~Ace~ · « **Reply #6 on:** July 23, 2007, 03:47:17 PM »

It Might be OK in a Cool Dry climate, but it's Useless in my Hot Humid one. This is from Real world experience. The tests you quoted are fine, but does nothing for Long term, and they took place well under 24 hours after application. If I spray a gun with WD and put it in my cabinet, it Will have rust in a weeks time, and be a Mess in a month. Breakfree CLP allows me 6+ months depending on the guns finish. I have no Climate control in my shack, and live in the south. ~Ace~

quickdtoo · « **Reply #7 on:** July 23, 2007, 04:07:41 PM »

Granted, WD40 isn't the best for long term storage, but I've used it for a long time without any issues, for as long as I can remember to be sure, and I ain't no spring chicken!

My firearms are kept in an unheated basement where the humidity runs 75% or so for the last 24yrs, I've never had a rust problem on any firearm, leather is another issue tho, had some get moldy $:-\$ , which prompted me to get a dehumidifier a couple years ago.

But if you want the best protection, even CLP is surpassed by Eezox, read his supplemental test at the bottom of the page that went on for 2 weeks between CLP and Eezox with repeated salt spray applications. I never even knew about Eezox until about 15yrs ago, my best friend started work for a mom and pop sporting goods store that sold Eezox, the owner had done a test similar to the GZ test with bright nails, the Eezox came out the winner, so I bought a can of it and was very pleased with the drying feature, the odor isn't pleasant, but ya get used to it, but it dries and doesn't collect dust like other oils. I got a chance to buy a case of it from another friend and I've been well stocked since, good stuff.

Tim

~Ace~ · « **Reply #8 on:** July 23, 2007, 04:28:52 PM »

I have never tried the Eezox, but it's on my list to get now

The Dry part would be a big plus as Dust is plentiful here

~Ace~

bearfat · « **Reply #9 on:** July 23, 2007, 05:23:44 PM »

I added the Eezox to my list of favorite web sites to review later. I also like the "dry" feature and may try some on the motorcycle chain.

I did tap the red pin over a tad and internally the rust barely got a foot hold past the edge of the hole, unfortunately, it was establishing itself well on the receiver and I've got some deep pitting.

I'm still surprised over how fast the damage occurred because I've left an old Winchester single shot 20 ga up there for years all year round and about every 5 years I bring it home and strip it down for a good cleaning.

"Ace" as a testament to Breakfree I used it on the 20 gauge all these years and only used FLITZ on the NEF. Guess I'll try the Breakfree on the NEF and see if results are better.

Here's a pic from this spring before I started cleaning the Winchester. And it really only has surface rust. Not the deep pits the NEF got. Well...maybe some minor pitting.

bearfat · « **Reply #10 on:** July 24, 2007, 04:55:42 AM »

quicktdoo when I went to the Eezox site I had to laugh. Not at the product but it reminded me of a confrontation I had with an anti-gun person at work.

This person had picked up a gun magazine and seen a product stating it protects against finger prints (Eezok is also good for finger prints) and the anti-gun person when nuts.

He of course thought it was so the police couldn't determine whose finger prints were on the gun if it was used in a crime. I told him was because of the acid we have on our fingers that can cause the metal to rust.

He refused to believe me...I had to actually walk away from him he was starting to cause a scene on the work floor.